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1 posted on 03/08/2006 8:00:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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Hell, if the ACLU wants to see ways an execution will show the pain and sufferning a murderer should feel, I'll be happy to get out some old horror movies for inspiration.


26 posted on 03/08/2006 8:21:50 PM PST by Brytani (Democrats - destroying America since 1868)
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Guillotine.

And have it setup so that the first time it drops it stops a few inches above the neck.


28 posted on 03/08/2006 8:26:35 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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29 posted on 03/08/2006 8:27:03 PM PST by kcvl
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Does ACLU have a suggestion on how to conduct death penalty painless? I thought giving them a sedative has already been quite humane (well, perhaps giving sleeping pills with strawberry flavor, so the person doesn't have to feel any pain from injection, would be even 'nicer').


31 posted on 03/08/2006 8:31:41 PM PST by paudio
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The ACLU thugs want it both ways.

They would claim a firing squad constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and violates the second amendment.

Hanging would be cruel and unusual, too.

Maybe we should let them chose the method of death.

34 posted on 03/08/2006 8:37:58 PM PST by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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Criminals don't have the same rights as citizens. It was a nice try though.


40 posted on 03/08/2006 8:45:54 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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These people will never be satisfied.......


41 posted on 03/08/2006 8:53:57 PM PST by jdontom (You have the right to remain silent. I suggest you use it.)
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I believe in Utah the perp get a choice of method - hanging or getting shot. I would think a good clean shot would be more humane than most of these murderers deserve...how about they get killed by the same method they killed their victims?
42 posted on 03/08/2006 9:00:54 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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OMG WTF BBQ?

Somebody needs to slap whatever the ACLU's using for brains out of their heads and slap something more useful in there.


45 posted on 03/08/2006 9:06:48 PM PST by RichInOC (On my darker days, the death-penalty appeals system in "The Stand" starts to sound really good.)
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You would think that the ACLU would vigorously defend a syringe's right to say, "Now you die."


46 posted on 03/08/2006 9:11:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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>>>ACLU says lethal injection violates First Amendment<<<

Well there is evidently some controversy over this. I think that the question needs to be answered by someone, or some entity, that has experienced lethal injection.

Solution: administer lethal injection to the ALCU and then let them tesitfy in court.

48 posted on 03/08/2006 9:12:58 PM PST by HardStarboard
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50 posted on 03/08/2006 9:17:42 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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Bullet in head is quick.


51 posted on 03/08/2006 9:18:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil. CS.Lewis)
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Time to lethally inject the ACLU. They are vile scum, anyway. In 1981, I actually joined this group, became quickly disillusioned and resigned six months later. They were scum then and they are even more vile scum now.
52 posted on 03/08/2006 9:24:29 PM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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lethal injection protocol violates the First Amendment rights of execution witnesses by not allowing them to see if the inmate is experiencing pain before death

I can't believe no one has actually posted the First Amendment here, as a proper subject of discussion, so I'll do it for you. Sheesh!!

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or prohibiting execution witnesses from seeing whether the condemned experience pain immediately prior to death, as by administering a sedative-based lethal injection to the latter; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to petition the Government for redress of grievences.

Looks like this is an open and shut case for the ACLU, sorry to say!

Do I really have to identify this as sarcasm? Honestly?

53 posted on 03/08/2006 9:27:16 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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Just when you thought you had heard it all.....

Don't forget to support the Alliance Defense Fund --- they are fighting the ACLU every day.

www.alliancedefensefund.org

55 posted on 03/08/2006 9:41:07 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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The ACLU's pretty lucky no one in the 1790's had the sense to include an amendment prohibiting dumbasses.
57 posted on 03/08/2006 9:44:22 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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The American Civil Liberties Union claimed in a federal lawsuit Wednesday that California's lethal injection protocol violates the First Amendment rights of execution witnesses




Ok. The ACLU is right.


Back to firing squads.


60 posted on 03/08/2006 10:46:00 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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With all his gifts and insight, even George Orwell could not have invented the ACLU; with each passing day, their endless forays into The Absurdist Political Theatre of Obnoxiousness gets ever closer to treason.


64 posted on 03/08/2006 11:35:17 PM PST by willyboyishere (You'd better begin living the way you think, or you'll soon be thinking the way you live> Brecht)
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The ACLU just doesn't seem to have respect for the first protocol of civilized society: justice. I didn't know keeping murderers free from pain was a civil right. The ACLU is truly a perverted organization.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

66 posted on 03/09/2006 12:00:18 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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