Posted on 03/08/2006 6:21:12 PM PST by Reagan Man
The ship of state moves slowly, the people better start screaming before we hit that iceberg!
Or else what? oh we will put a democrat in office! yea that will fix it! LOL
the white house refuses to offer the congressional republicans a political off ramp here - they want them to commit political suicide in the face of the polls on this issue. and I am not talking about the generic polls, I am just talking about the polls amongst republican voters.
its amazing to me that the white house would find this one issue, to take a firm stand on, and be so politically tone deaf on it.
I am afraid that you are confusing a stiffening of a finger in the wind to a backbone.
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You may be right - but it is a very positive step against a force operating in our government that is not at all in the best interests of the United States. To date, I have been totally frustrated, like a great many, with a Repub majority in Congress (two of them) that has been basically under the thumb of the White House, and virtually impotent to get anything done. But most importantly, it shows that the when the people of this country get serious about an issue, they can directly turn the Congress around and make them do something...yet many still do not realize this, but again, a positive little baby-step in the right direction. I also see people, in general, wising-up to the modus operandi of the Congress and starting to keep an eye on them.
and you can see the white house strategy here - they don't want to use the 45 days period to find a compromise here, they just want to hand wave, break the arms of the leadership to push this through procedurally, and run out the clock.
---If they want to make a law that says no foreign leasing or management of terminals in US ports, then fine. But singling out the UAE, our staunchest Arab ally, when China and the Saudis and numerous others manage terminals is plain ignorance.---
And what about foreign airlines flying into our airports? Isn't that just another 9/11 waiting to happen, according to our anti-UAE friends? Shouldn't we ban all foreign investment? After all isn't money the most potent of modern weapons?
Let's see, no Arabs, no Chinese. Maybe we should ban all non-white foreigners from doing business in the USA...and also the French!
I like the idea of the ports being American run.
But then I also like the idea of having an American run merchant fleet !
Well I guess we should just open our wallets even more and put billions more into New Orleans then as well....shouldn't we. Considering ABC & NBC news were showing polls out tonight saying over 65% of Americans don't feel GWB has done enough for the victims of hurricane Katrina....and that more $$ is needed.
The reality is those against the Port deal are doing so based out of emotion. Not reality and certainly not by having all the facts. Or do you honestly presume that the majority of Americans understand how U.S. (and World) ports operate? - Please.
Or else what? oh we will put a democrat in office! yea that will fix it! LOL
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You said that, I didn't -- :-) -- the people have a voice that they rarely use. Here is a situation where the people did let their voices be heard, through alot of outrage to their representatives and through the New Media. And it had a strong effect. This can easily have a future effect on this type of crap being put upon the U.S. covertly, without adequate oversight. And this will also go on the Bush legacy list.
Nope, no Marxists in the White House, at any price. Never has been my position to even think about it. That would be jumping off a cliff for America. That is why Hitlery will not win in 2008. She keeps tripping over her hammer-and-sickle flag...
Polls are king. When the nixing results in blowback to the US, Bush will be blamed for that too. Bush is sort of like sponge these days that is there to absorb the toxins emanating from the public square. Sad.
I quit expecting much from them about 7 yrs ago.
You are dead wrong. First off this is not the political end all issue that most are making it out to be. Not 1% of the voting public will cast their vote in Nov on this issue. That is just pure-BS.
Additionally GWB is right on this issue (Ports) and the general public doesn't have the slightest clue about how U.S. ports (or World ports) operate.
Those in the GOP better stand behind CIC GWB this November or they will lose. If they try and break away and play some "middle" game....they will lose.
Yet if they stand up tall and support this CIC, support the GWOT, support Iraq fully (and tout the amazing successes which are happening throughout the ME...and stop allowing false premises to be cast).....if they do this and stand firm they win in November (big time).
If they want to try and blow like tree leafs with every new poll....they will lose...without question.
That was sarcastic, no way would I vot for dem or even think about.
"The reality is those against the Port deal are doing so based out of emotion. Not reality and certainly not by having all the facts."
I actually think that one of the reasons that you are probably seeing such tremendous opposition to this deal is a direct result of the administration's inactivity on the border and illegal immigration issue. Many people, rightly or wrongly, see this port deal as another step in a globalist agenda. I guarantee you that if Congress and the WH had been doing their jobs protecting the border, you would not see such hostility to an issue like the port deal.
LOL!! Even Juan Williams smells Republican panic.
The House Republicans have managed to shoot themselves in BOTH feet.
Agreed.
Don't expect any Intel from the UAE after all this.
You're probably right on this - But that doesn't make those opposing the Ports deal any less intellectually dishonest over this issue.
Furthermore the whole "lack of border security" is a lighting rod issue that has been used and overblown to some degree.
There is more profiling going on at our borders then most are aware of (for a number of reasons). I'll leave it at that.
I think as time goes by this one is going to cost the US big time. Of course you are correct ,when it does they will blame that on the President too.
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