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Putin's Pander - The Russian president cozies up to Muslims abroad, and takes a hard-line against th
Weekly Standard ^ | 03/08/2006 | Igor Khrestin

Posted on 03/08/2006 11:26:01 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 03/08/2006 11:26:03 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; ...
Kadyrov [...] stating that, "Denmark has always supported terrorists . . . In any case, these [NGOs] have never cooperated with the authorities. They collected information. They were like spies. We had very little use for them."

Same was in Kosovo.

2 posted on 03/08/2006 11:31:56 AM PST by A. Pole (Milosevic: "And when they behead your own people [...] then you will know what this was all about.")
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To: A. Pole

So in other words, you're saying theat the anti-western muslim Chechen Kadyrov is one of the "good muslims" who we should listen to and believe?


3 posted on 03/08/2006 11:33:39 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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The Russian president cozies up to Muslims abroad

How long till this pandering to Muslims by Putin leads to the Chechnyians force Russia to slap them down again?

4 posted on 03/08/2006 11:35:59 AM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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"Putin's strategy, evidently, is to repress ordinary Muslims at home while pandering to Islamist extremists abroad."

Sort of the opposite of ours... we hit them outside the US but let them run rampant in our borders (they practically have a quick no-check line in airport screening due to fear of profiling suits)


5 posted on 03/08/2006 11:36:13 AM PST by x5452
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So in other words, you're saying theat the anti-western muslim Chechen Kadyrov is one of the "good muslims" who we should listen to and believe?

"anti-western"? I think that for Kremlin it is much more important whether Muslim Chechen leaders are pro or anti Russian.

6 posted on 03/08/2006 11:41:27 AM PST by A. Pole (Milosevic: "And when they behead your own people [...] then you will know what this was all about.")
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To: A. Pole

This is about muslim anger at the west over cartoons. Russia sided with Islam against the west.


7 posted on 03/08/2006 11:44:09 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Hey thanks for the ping along.

Weekly Standard is a leading neo-com[sic] voice in Muslim hating. Putin, like Bush, wants to deal with certain Muslims. No wonder 'bomb the world Kristol I want to get another column off' is separating from Bush.

8 posted on 03/08/2006 11:47:10 AM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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Russia is the leading voice in muslim "neo-con" hating.


9 posted on 03/08/2006 11:48:59 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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This is about muslim anger at the west over cartoons. Russia sided with Islam against the west.

There is a large native Muslim population in Russia. It is a matter of Russian national security to prevent ethnic/religious conflicts. One Chechnya was enough.

If you were in the Russian government would you act differently?

10 posted on 03/08/2006 12:07:17 PM PST by A. Pole (Lord Palmerston: "Nations have no permanent enemies or allies only permanent interests")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

"Putin's strategy, evidently, is to repress ordinary Muslims at home while pandering to Islamist extremists abroad." - Weekly Standard

And why would this be? Because under Bush-Rice, there are utterly no consequences for Russian suppression of its own democracy and Russian backing of the Islamo-Fascists.


11 posted on 03/08/2006 12:10:54 PM PST by mdefranc
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Evidently Beslan was just a nighmare that never really happened.

Terrorists are the friends of the Russian people, yes?

NYET!!!

12 posted on 03/08/2006 12:12:13 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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Putin and the ChiComs are doing the same thing. Pandering to muslims abroad, that is.


13 posted on 03/08/2006 1:39:36 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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No wonder 'bomb the world Kristol I want to get another column off' is separating from Bush.

Meanwhile, "Bomb the World", "Civil War in Iraq", Daniel Pipes says the Muslim cartoons were never discussed when he met with Flemming Rose in 04.

14 posted on 03/08/2006 1:40:42 PM PST by Eagleami (Israeli Hero - Moses Hess - Communist Manifesto)
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To: A. Pole

A tricky position for them vis-a-vis the Chechens. I'm not sure I'd trust any of them - Kadyrov especially, given his background.

What disappointed me in what Putin said was the following:
"One should reflect 100 times before publishing or drawing something," he said. "If a state cannot prevent such publications, it should at least ask for forgiveness."

He's complained a million times about the "double standard" then he resorts to it. He's slipping. This second term for him thus far has been an absolute disaster.


15 posted on 03/08/2006 4:21:09 PM PST by Romanov
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To: Romanov

is there a limit on putin's terms?


16 posted on 03/08/2006 4:24:33 PM PST by gogoman
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How would I handle this differently than M'sieur Poutine?

Well first of all I would not have condemned Denmark for failing to prevent any insult made toward the "Prophet" (piss be upon him).

Next I wouldn't demand that Denmark apologize to Islam for failing to kiss their islamic asses.

Finally, I wouldn't shut down two Russian newspapers for daring to offend tender muslim sensibilities.

Putin didn't have to say anything at all about this stupid cartoon controversy, but he couldn't pass up a chance to pander to muslims.

You see, we have a little something in the "West" called "freedom." It means we can say whatever we want about the demon possessed pedophile mohammed. Muslims don't like "freedom" and it seems the Russians (or at least their government) agree with them.

If Russia thinks it's a good idea to try and appease muslims, then they will get what all dhimmis deserve.

17 posted on 03/08/2006 4:39:22 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Yes - he's done in 2008. Although the Russian (and Western) press floats stories from time-to-time surmising how he'll be able to find a loop hole in the term limits. As it stands now, I don't think he'll even try it - I think he's looking at making some $$$$$ after he's out of office.

Two years is a long time in politics, especially in Russian politics. Right now there is not a clear successor. Most are saying Sergej Ivanov is heir apparant, but his failure to properly modernize the Russian Army, control his subordinates, and get a handle of the hazing in the Russian military, are going to tie him down (I hope). Kasyanov (former PM) has announced he'll probably run, but he's got too many ties to oligarchs and that'll kill him with the "people." Dmitry Medvedev is the one to watch right now.


18 posted on 03/08/2006 4:45:01 PM PST by Romanov
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This is about muslim anger at the west over cartoons. Russia sided with Islam against the west.

Tailgunner, you remember the cartoon in the Volgograd paper, and in reality it was not offensive, because it simply implied that all religions should get along. However, it violated Russian law, which was in effect prior to the cartoon. It calls for nothing offensive to any religion being in the papers. To say Russia sided with the Muslims on this count is a distortion of reality, and if you were honest you would admit it. This is simply another example of your life has to find some reason to attack Russia no matter what the truth.
19 posted on 03/08/2006 5:38:34 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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Unfortunately, absent from the agenda will be any discussion of the domestic factors that lie at the root of Russia's recent foreign policy maneuvers: namely, Putin's growing accommodation of terror at the expense of Russian democracy and the safety of its own citizens. A week before the Hamas delegation's visit to the Russian capital, the Russian authorities closed two regional newspapers--Gorodskie Vesti in Volgograd and Nash Region in Vologda--for printing the Danish Mohammad cartoons.
Not to mention Putin's revival of state control of industry, elimination of significant amounts of private property, destruction of the capital of Chechnya, sale of modern fighter jets to Venezuela, opposition to the liberation of Iraq...
20 posted on 03/08/2006 9:44:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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