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The Rise of Talibanistan
The Fourth Rail ^ | March 6 2006 | Bill Roggio

Posted on 03/06/2006 11:06:06 AM PST by jmc1969

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1 posted on 03/06/2006 11:06:06 AM PST by jmc1969
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over the weekend it was reported that Yale U officials said about recruiting the Taliban ..."we lost one already to Harvard and we'll not let that happen again...."

I would like to know what was the name of the terrorist recruited by Harvard...


2 posted on 03/06/2006 11:06:37 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: Cap Huff; Dog; Coop; AdmSmith; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Straight Vermonter; Wiz; Calpernia; Deetes; ...

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3 posted on 03/06/2006 11:08:43 AM PST by jmc1969
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I actually felt sorry for President Bush when, in his speech in Pakistan (IIRC), he said, "we're gonna get Osama...it's just a matter of time."
4 posted on 03/06/2006 11:12:43 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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Why would you feel sorry for him?


5 posted on 03/06/2006 11:17:13 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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It just sounded sad. OBL is hidden (presumably) in growing "no go" zones in Pak or Afghan. H$ll, he could be hiding in the growing "no go" zones in Marseille and his people aren't going to give him up and we can't go house to house to find him.

It sounded naive and I am sure the muslim audience thought so.

This isn't a war against OBL...it is a war against a very large part of "by the book" believers in islam. While we are doing a great job in Iraq, islam is making inroads all over the world, IMHO.

6 posted on 03/06/2006 11:23:04 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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You'll change your tune when we have his head on a pike. Not the sound of a sad president, but a confident one.


7 posted on 03/06/2006 11:24:37 AM PST by pissant
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You'll change your tune when we have his head on a pike.

Maybe. That would certainly be great, but in the overall scheme of things I would rather have the President focus on the whole enemy. This isn't like WWII where the killing of Hitler would stop the war. OBL's death won't mean a thing in islam march toward the global caliphate. Muslims will just put OBL's pic on the wall for inspiration.

8 posted on 03/06/2006 11:28:49 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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Going into OBL's backyard and declaring he's dead meat doesn't sound sad to me. Releasing hacked up, crappy video and audio tapes carried by courier from remote hiding places strikes me as much sadder.


9 posted on 03/06/2006 11:29:09 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: jmc1969
Where the Taliban still rule - Waziristan
10 posted on 03/06/2006 11:31:14 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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If he his speech had said "we are going to wipe radical islam off the face of this planet." I would have jumped up and cheered. That's what must be done. OBL is just a symbol...his death may cheer us but to the muslims he is already a hero. His death will establish his martyrdom.


11 posted on 03/06/2006 11:34:45 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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To: Dark Skies
but to the muslims he is already a hero.

I agree Bin Laden's just a symbol. I view al Zawahiri as a bigger threat. But Bin Laden's death will be a powerful blow symbolically. And nobody knows better than Dubya what needs to be done to dismantle Islamofascist terrorism.

13 posted on 03/06/2006 11:37:26 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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I agree. that's why we are in Afghanistan and Iraq and Africa and putting the thumbscrews on the Saudis, Jordanians, Egyptians etc. Besides Iran, there is NO country willing to praise Osama. Saddam did and that worked well. Even HAMAS in the PA territories, said they reject Zawahiri's support. LOL. The islamists are getting wiped.


14 posted on 03/06/2006 11:38:00 AM PST by pissant
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This is the proverbial 600 pound gorilla in the room: A part of a 'Country' that acts autonomously and is, therefore, not a part of a 'Country'.

I wonder if we could ask Pakistan (using the UN as a proxy) something like, "You've got 30 days to fully 'administer' this geographical area, otherwise somebody has to, and we nominate the USA". Problem solved: Go in and clean house.

15 posted on 03/06/2006 11:42:40 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jmc1969

When I saw the title, I wondered if it was an article about Yale?


16 posted on 03/06/2006 11:45:19 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Now is the time for all good customes agents in Tiajunna to come to the aid of their stuned beebers!)
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To: Dark Skies
We can get bin Laden whenever we decide to take the heat for invading Pakistan and killing a bunch of "innocent women and children."

We don't know exactly where he stays. We know approximately. Ordnance won't winkle him out. A guy with an M4 will. OBL's body guards will resist. The local tribal lashkars might light up our guys and get whacked for it.

Probably bring Mushy down.

17 posted on 03/06/2006 11:52:35 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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Zawahiri would symbolically be a KSM level get. In that the US public really doesn't know him, but the media does and will play it up for a couple days. Bin Laden would be a huge symbolic capture, but not as large tactically as someone like Zawhiri. I really believe Binnie Boy has gone so deep he isn't going to the kind of terror summets and meetings we see Zawhiri going to in order to plan operations.

Zarqawi would IMHO be the capture that best combines tactical and symbolic value. In that he is the only terrorists that has name recognition with the average American other then Bin Laden. And, of course Zarqawi still has control of the best funded branch of al-Qaeda and has far more access to recruits then al-Qaeda in Pakistan. There was one suicide blast in Pakistan during Bush's trip to that part of the world. If the president went to Iraq z-man would have 20 Saudi Wahhibi scum ready to incinerate themselves.


18 posted on 03/06/2006 11:53:40 AM PST by jmc1969
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Pakistan has never effectively controlled the FATA. Neither did the British.

What's the use to tell them to do something they can't do?

19 posted on 03/06/2006 11:55:39 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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Bin Laden would be a huge symbolic capture, but not as large tactically as someone like Zawhiri. I really believe Binnie Boy has gone so deep he isn't going to the kind of terror summets and meetings we see Zawhiri going to in order to plan operations.

We're in agreement.

20 posted on 03/06/2006 11:55:46 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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