Posted on 03/06/2006 10:47:30 AM PST by ShadowAce
Completely amazing. As someone else said, this is a stunt, not a hack.
I think that "gwerdna" might actually be someone called Andrew G, what do you think?
No, as I pointed out on the other thread, that merely makes it into a local exploit, rather than a remote exploit. You should not be able to compromise the machine merely by logging in - the fact that you can do so means there is a hole somewhere.
Are you on Apple's payroll?
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
BTW, it's "latter". ;)
I forgot to add /opensourcegplnutcommiebigot_off at the end.
Ouch. Or should I say PWNED! I still think OS X is a slick OS though.
BWA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA !
Lies, lies, more lies!
It's because it's superior dontchaknow...
OK how about prettier and gay... ?
Thanks for the "latter" You are the 3rd internet police-person I've met here today. Not too annoying.
I'm not on Apple's payroll. I just use them, and find it amazing how much vitriol is displayed towards this inconsequential platform from insecure PeeCeers.
Agreed. Even local users shouldn't be able to root a box, but I'm a heck of a lot more worried about remote exploits than local exploits, as I don't think I'm likely to be hacking myself while sleepwalking.
From what I understand, there are known local exploits for Windows that not only haven't been patched, they are not planned to ever be patched because it would take a re-write of some rather fundamental service-related code, and any fix would break tons of applications. I recall specifically one I read the details about involving notepad.
When one has internet facing boxes, it's really important to understand what you need and do not need to have running. Many exploits can be avoided merely by having a tightly configured firewall. I watch such applications as ssh and apache pretty closely, as a failure in either can be more dangerous than just about any other program I run.
Relaxe.
I have nothing particularly personal against Macs.
My brother-in-law uses his to burn my home movies to DVD and I cannot think of a better machine for the task.
I do, however, take particular "glee" from the relatively easy baiting of Mac-groupies. It really is too easy.
As far as "insecure" goes;
1. I'm incredibly confident that I can go to nearly any US corporation and be perfectly capable of using their systems without issue.
2. I am secure in my knowlege that my platform will get first crack at any new software and that I won't have to wait two years until the publishers get around to making a half-ass version for the Mac.
The transition to the Intel architecture must have sponsored at least a few dozen suicides by now ;)
Given physical access, anyone can root a box. So even local users can't/shouldn't have physical access.
"Physical access" means, of course, the presence of a removable-media drive, monitor, keyboard. A box without those is a lot harder to gain access to.
Quite so, but administrators of machines which others are intended to access - computer labs, libraries, even businesses deploying Macs for their employees - should be at least moderately concerned.
For saome, maybe. To me, not really. It's not the CPU that floats my boat, it's the OS that I prefer.
Is that you, Golden Eagle?
Absolutely. If I have physical access, there is nothing you can do to keep me out of any box, be it a PC, or mainframe.
These days, with the 'live' linux distributions, that is even easier than it used to be.
Yup. Threat models matter a lot to one's stance regarding administration and patching standards.
Well hell, no wonder people hacked his box. If he'd put up a decent firewall and then someone hacked it using an http or https exploit, then I might worry a little.
I remember some time, about 8 years ago, when Jobs held a huge conference (annual Apple convention?) to announce that Apple had secured an additional $100 million in financing.
I watched (on TV, live) as Jobs gestured to a large projection screen. When Bill Gates smiling face was broadcast onto that 40' screen, I SWEAR I could hear gasps, then gentle sobbing ;)
I'm still waiting for Final Cut Pro HD on the PC. A bunch of popular UNIX apps would be nice too.
I remember that. Gates made A LOT of money from that investment.
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