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Israelis see red over Indo-US nuke deal
The Indian Express/ PTI ^ | Posted online: Monday, March 06, 2006 at 1438 hours IST | The Indian Express

Posted on 03/06/2006 7:13:02 AM PST by CarrotAndStick

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To: pganini

No point discussing this issue on this thread anymore, ChiCom. Your lies are transparent for all to read.


121 posted on 03/06/2006 2:25:10 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: gogoman

Good, the less he likes the better it is :)

I'll bet if Chen goes independence and China attacks, he'll be the FIRST one to flee the island. That's the type of leader he is.

He's doing this because he wants his DPP political base to grow - hence, all the hooplas about 2-28 and the attacks on Chiang Kai Shek (without whom he wouldn't even be in power in Taiwan) and his role on 2-28.

I don't think that China will ever attack Taiwan unless Chen declares independence, so all the speculation is sort of moot -- they're more interested in having an economic successful Taiwan, then one that would be destroyed if there is a conflict (doesn't matter if China wins or not, Taiwan's economy will be in shambles if conflict occurs). The next move is really up to Chen.

See, to the Indians, they just don't get why KMT wouldn't want independence. :) They just don't get the cultural ties between the two. Even as Ang Lee wins the oscar, he said "thanks to the support iN Taiwan, Hong Kong and CHINA" and then he spoke in putonghua (mandarin Chinese) at the end. That must have pissed off Chen alot that he didn't use the local Taiwanese dialect :D

People view Taiwan issue as a simple issue, but it's extremely complex in its core.


122 posted on 03/06/2006 2:28:22 PM PST by pganini
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To: pganini
Every country does whats in their own best interest. We all deal with the islamic world, for now. Not forever.

India has made this deal with the USA because they want to have alternatives to the islamees. And they clearly see the threat of china in the near future.

123 posted on 03/06/2006 2:28:36 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: CarrotAndStick

They had nothing to lose, complaining...and maybe the Jewish lobby in the US could knock on a few doors and make a difference.


124 posted on 03/06/2006 2:30:19 PM PST by hershey
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To: indcons

That's alright dude -- you can keep up thinking that INdia is an awesome country, blah blah blah, but i am pointing out the obvious -- you side with Islamic Iran as much as China does.

And besides calling yourself the world's most populous democracy, maybe it shoudl be the worlds MOST POOR democracy, lagging behind a COMMUNIST state like China by 1/2 per capita terms (and that's including purchasing parity). A country so great that they ahve won LESS OLYMPICS MEDALS than Taiwan.


125 posted on 03/06/2006 2:30:21 PM PST by pganini
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To: indcons

Someday china will be free and unite with Taiwan. Then the apologists will be silent.


126 posted on 03/06/2006 2:32:03 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: pganini

OK, ChiCom....please yourself with the comissionar's instructions.


127 posted on 03/06/2006 2:32:45 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: monkeywrench

They're playing a waiting game between China and US. They're expected to trade MORE with China than US by next year.

I dont' blame them for playing the waiting game, but i am just pointing out the obvious thing that htey're doing (which indcons doesn't like, because it shows that India is two sided and manipulates and I dont' actually blame them for their own interests. I just don't like it when they're pretending that they are in unaninimous support of US policies when in fact, they are not).


128 posted on 03/06/2006 2:33:50 PM PST by pganini
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To: indcons

Their jealousy is eating them alive. This deal will hurt the chicom way alot. Watch and see.


129 posted on 03/06/2006 2:33:56 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

They are trying really hard, aren't they? :)

And they expect people to believe their nonsense...LOL. I can understand the ChiCom frustration though; they don't have much experience with open societies.


130 posted on 03/06/2006 2:34:38 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: pganini

Wil you please ping me when you mention my name as per FR rules. Why is that both you and CKwilliams can't show basic courtesies? I guess you ChiComs only learn things in re-education camps.


131 posted on 03/06/2006 2:36:19 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: indcons

It's a pain to not being able to reply to "all" when you're replying a thread, so... since you're reading the thread, there is no point of pinging you, especially when I am not even addressing you.


132 posted on 03/06/2006 2:37:54 PM PST by pganini
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To: pganini

We manipulate, too. Nobody manipulates more than the chicoms. The day after the deal, they tell the Indians to get rid of their nukes? LOL! The days of dictators are over!


133 posted on 03/06/2006 2:38:16 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: pganini; Admin Moderator

Sorry...FR rules are quite clear on this. Unlike you, I don't spend all my time on India or ChiCom threads. Hence, the request for common courtesies.


135 posted on 03/06/2006 2:40:50 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: pganini
I don't think that China will ever attack Taiwan unless Chen declares independence

Exactly. Chen will never declare independence, and China will never invade Taiwan without provocation.

It's kind of like a weaker form of mutually assured destruction. Lots of people focus on Taiwan, but 30 years from now, Taiwan might be a non-issue, just like Russia today (well sort of).

I don't care much for the Mainland's communist government at all, I hope that the KMT will one day return to China for good and hopefully win the hearts of the Chinese there. That is the kind of peaceful reunification I (and at least 50% of other Taiwanese) want to see. It is good for everyone to see that.
136 posted on 03/06/2006 2:46:53 PM PST by gogoman
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To: indcons

I am always happy to change my opinion when the facts warrant it.


137 posted on 03/06/2006 2:52:57 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
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138 posted on 03/06/2006 3:54:34 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: A. Pole

More A or more *ole?


139 posted on 03/06/2006 4:14:59 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: CarrotAndStick

Israel has to stop selling arms to China. Period. It's suicidal long term strategy, and an insult to its allies.

And, have no fear, I think India will continue buying Israeli made weapons.


140 posted on 03/06/2006 4:17:18 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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