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Islam's March Against the West
Because They Hate (excerpts from Intelligence Summit in Washington DC) ^ | 2-18-06 | Brigitte Gabriel

Posted on 03/04/2006 8:29:25 PM PST by FFforFreedom

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To: Reagan Man
On this part you still remain naive and ignorant. We're fighting a war on terror in the middle of the Islamic world. Right in the Muslim homeland. From reports over the last several yaers, half the Islamic world hates America and wants us all to die. The other half isn't thrilled with us either. If there is even 10% of the Islamic world who fall into the catagory of radical fundamentalists, jihadists and islamofascists, that equates to 120,000,000 warriors ready to die for Allah and Mohammad.

We all have the same objectives, I just live in the real world and understand that with out help in that part of the world we will 1. Not have actionable Intel and 2. Not have ports or bases to project power to complete or objectives.

121 posted on 03/04/2006 10:20:56 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Laptop_Ron

I'd venture that MOST Moslem hate this country to some extent. The silence of some , to me , condones the actions of others.Islam by it's very nature makes them feel they are the chosen ones and born to rule the earth . Islam in not only a religion but a culture and even more dangerous a political/social movement. Most "moderates" would love to see Islam dominate this country . The USA is one hell of a nice place my friend . They have their eyes on it for sure.


122 posted on 03/04/2006 10:25:29 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: pbrown

They respect and fear strength. They abhor and crush weakness.
TRUE..that's what cracks me up about the PC/MSM/Ny Times / Hollywood , Liberal Dem crowd. They will be the FIRST to have their heads rolling down the streets.At least they will respect the warrior hearts they see here on FR.


123 posted on 03/04/2006 10:27:51 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: binkdeville

The USA? You're thinking too small, my friend. Islam is about world domination. Europe would go first. The reason? Immigration.

If you want to go into conspiracy theory mode, the immigrants in Europe will do more to foster muslim ascendancy than any group of terrorists. The problem with the terrorists (from a muslim POV, is that they're impatient. More immigrants flood into Euro countries, which translates into more political power. Power to change laws. Power to change cultures. You get a muslim majority in a Euro country and eventually, bit by bit, the laws will start to tilt slowly towards shari'a.

Is it a conspiracy? I doubt it. A natural progression? You betcha.


124 posted on 03/04/2006 10:31:05 PM PST by Laptop_Ron
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To: Echo Talon
I give up.

I thought we we're discussing the essay by Brigitte Gabriel. Now since you lost the debate, you want to change the subject matter. Okay.

Fact. The US gets some of its best intel from Israel. And earlier I called for the US to keep its military bases in the Afghanistan and Iraq, long term. We have certain arrangements, aka. business deals, with the UAE, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Fine. I still don't want foreigners managing our commericial terminals in US ports of entry on the American homeland. Period!

And lets not forget. If it wasn't for America's huge appetite for foreign oil --- 30% in 1980/60% today --- we wouldn't have to be dealing with these Islamic crapheads today. Open ANWR, open all of Alaska to oil drilling if necessary; drill off the Kalifornia coast; drill more wells in the Gulf of Mexico. Drill everywhere and anywhere we know there is oil reserves. The US can become more energy independent.

Lastly. Without oil, the ME would still be known for one product and one product only. SAND!

126 posted on 03/04/2006 10:40:26 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Laptop_Ron

You don't need to tell me . I spend a month or so each year in Holland . Only last year did they START to realize the problem they have with Islam. They are wising up in Holland (maybe too late ) France is lost and England ( from what I saw ) is an Islamic country . Belguim by the way is NOT ANYTHING like the Belgium you remember from geography class in grammer school . Even the little towns and quaint villages all have their business signs in arabic..Scary huh ?


127 posted on 03/04/2006 10:42:49 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: binkdeville

It might be short-sighted of me, but it'll only scare me when it happens here. I'm wondering if I should prepare to be scared.


129 posted on 03/04/2006 10:44:11 PM PST by Laptop_Ron
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To: Laptop_Ron

It's already happining here where I am in the NY Metro area. Be prepared and aware not scared.
I oftem wonder how happy Osama would be if Klinton got to the White House...just a thought ....


130 posted on 03/04/2006 10:49:54 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: Looking4Truth
I simply see the writing on the wall. The barbarians are at the gate, and our government, in an effort to be 'politically correct' has left it unlocked.

Some of us see it, but most still have the blinders on. If that makes me look like a racist, then I guess I am one.

131 posted on 03/04/2006 10:55:54 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: MississippiMan

Was calling it a night but had to make a closing comment to you.

I'm a career fire fighter in a major city. I sat in a room in 1998 listening to our Haz Mat Chief talk about terrorism and terrorist tactics and methods. He stated it's not a matter of if it's when. We later went to the yard and practiced our techniqes for dealing with Anthrax.

I took another class today. It stated the same thing. It's not if it's when. We're not talking small.

I don't see any option but to be on the offensive.


132 posted on 03/04/2006 10:56:05 PM PST by FFforFreedom
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To: binkdeville

Don't think he really cares. Though he must know that the heat would be off him.


133 posted on 03/04/2006 10:56:43 PM PST by Laptop_Ron
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To: binkdeville

Have a good night, binkdeville. Was a pleasure.


134 posted on 03/04/2006 10:57:31 PM PST by Laptop_Ron
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To: CrawDaddyCA

"If that makes me look like a racist"

NO...it makes you look like a realist!


135 posted on 03/04/2006 10:58:14 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (As soon as you settle for less, you are stuck with less.)
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To: Echo Talon
"Yep, but according the this lady what was the point of endangering our men, trying to setup democracy in both places when they are just aganst us anyhow. I guess she feels our soldiers who have died since the capture of Saddam have been a waste?" Don't think that's quite what she's saying. We're planting a seed for democracy and reform that the Iraqis can either choose to nurture and grow, or let wither in the desert. We owe it to the Iraqis to give it a shot after deposing Saddam. The fact that we're still having to declare Martial Law 4 years into the occupation gives me doubts as to where this will end up. (unstable puppet-regime, similar to Soviet-era satellites, IMHO) You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Imposing order in a country halfway around the globe is a pricey deal. $400-billion dollars could do a lot of good in American coffers (tax cuts, border wall, deficit reduction, et c.,.). Your thoughts on how long we should keep on with MOTS pandering to a rabid ideology, before taking steps to deal with the root of the problem, and preventing the spread at home?
136 posted on 03/04/2006 11:01:55 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Laptop_Ron

thanx bro ..you too


137 posted on 03/04/2006 11:04:07 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: CrawDaddyCA
If that makes me look like a racist, then I guess I am one.

I certainly hope that I wasn't implying anyone on this thread was a racist. I haven't even looked at this thread since the day before yesterday.

Besides that, we all know that Islam is not a race it is a religioncult which should be dealt with like a rabid dog. You don't reason with it, you kill it.

At least that's what I've learned since 9/11.

138 posted on 03/04/2006 11:08:06 PM PST by Looking4Truth (The U.S. knows the rest of the world is damn near useless and we're sick of carrying their asses!)
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To: Looking4Truth
I haven't even looked at this thread since the day before yesterday.

Crap, I must be getting tired. I posted to this one tonight. Sorry.

139 posted on 03/04/2006 11:10:04 PM PST by Looking4Truth (The U.S. knows the rest of the world is damn near useless and we're sick of carrying their asses!)
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To: Echo Talon

"we need to change some hearts & minds along with the culture"

Couldn't agree more as to the goal, but they have to want change first. Only way I see that happening is for them to come to their own realization that their ways don't lead anywhere but poverty and/or death over the long haul.

Trying to force cultural change will only lead to further feelings of resentment. Rewarding nations who don't change, and continuing to look the other way is just inviting a knife to the back.


140 posted on 03/04/2006 11:13:11 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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