WY: Concealed gun bill worries police

Laramie Boomerang (Wyoming) ^ | 3/3/06 | Micah Sturr

[HEY4QDEMS]

if you are a Wyoming resident 21 or older who can legally own a gun, are physically able to safely handle the gun and have not been committed to a facility for drug or alcohol abuse in the past six years.

IOW, there is no damn good reason why you shouldn't be allowed to carry.

[Dead Corpse]

“It’s not a healthy piece of legislation."

Er yeah... It is SOOOO much safer and healthier being a disarmed civilian when an actual bad guy decides to commit a crime on you.

Effing moron. Just trying to cover his own political arse. The hell with Civil Rights and annoying things like "Constitutions" and "Bill of Rights".

[BenLurkin]

Deutsch also worries that if there is an increase in people carrying concealed weapons his officers will have to shift away from friendly public service to “edgy vigilance.”

"He doesn’t want a cool, adversarial relationship between police and citizens."

Sounds like you crossed that line a long time ago sir.

[John Jorsett]

Deutsch also worries that if there is an increase in people carrying concealed weapons his officers will have to shift away from friendly public service to “edgy vigilance.”

The people who are the types to shoot you during a traffic stop aren't waiting around for a concealed-carry permit. If you aren't in "edgy vigilance" mode already, you're crazy.

[sheik yerbouty]

So? What's the problem? Damned liberal hoplophobes!

[Crucis Country]

"The bill would allow police officers to take and secure a citizen’s concealed weapon for the duration of the interaction between the two. Currently, concealed weapons permit holders have been vetted, and police are less likely to handle a citizen’s firearm now than they would be if unchecked people had concealed weapons, Deutsch said."

This is Idiocy! Someone's gonna get shot because a cop is fumbling around with their weapon. That part of the bill must be strickened. Pure Idiocy!

[right right]

Does it worry the police on the street or the Police Chiefs who are not covered by civil service and spout the BS the city leaders tell them to or they are relieved of their chiefy duties. The chief speaks for the city and generally not for the guys that do the work. They don't matter.

[Dead Corpse]

It's BS in any case. When I'm armed, I feel more at ease than ever. I KNOW that if a bad situation happens, that I can at least defend myself or others. I'm less inclined to drive aggressively or be bothered by annoying drivers in traffic.

A lot of the misinformation about gun owners/carriers needs to be shown up as the utter crap that it is. If you can carry in your State, do so. Even if it is only openly, on Sunday, between 2-3 PM. Maybe especially then. The more people who exercise their Right, the harder it will be for them to spread lies about us.

[Americanexpat]

Cops are reactive, they show up with their guns after the crime has been committed not before. I need to be able to protect my family or myself before they even know a crime has been committed.

[relictele]

Sounds like you crossed that line a long time ago sir.

Amen x 1000. Why are these stories always reflective of panic on the part of the desk jockeys?

Why is the obvious question never asked: if criminals already ignore the law what difference will any law make to them?

Why isn't another obvious question asked: since the police can't be everywhere all the time, what about the potential deterrent to crime a (responsible) armed populace engenders?

[roofgoat]

Damn, even in WY cities? Are there any Police Chiefs that aren't Libs or who have not been corrupted?

This pisses me off - I never thought I would hear a cop in WY say this.

[Dead Corpse]

They have to reinforce the idea that the public will panic if everyone so inclined starts carrying. It is the only way for them to continue to program that part of their Pavlovian response training for the general public.

Convince the sucker moms that a holstered pistol is a threat to every living thing in a 10 kilometer radius, even if unloaded, and you can get them to support any candidate that promises to "do something about it".

[ziggy_dlo]

well gorsh
I totally forgot about my rights
yeah right give me a break
the demoncrats want you to give up your guns
they want you to beleive that the governement will protect you.
a police officer is not going to protect you
that is not his duty
his duty is to "uphold the law"

[George from New England]

Sounds like a Vermont on the western front.

[ziggy_dlo]

Traffic tickets
To arrest people and solve crime, not to prevent crime

[George from New England]

Hwy...one big drawback in the future is...

The national reciprocal carry bills that have a chance exclude states like Vermont that allow permitless carry.

Wyoming might become a second state the the national carry exempts.

[absolootezer0]

“If you want to build a room on your house, you need a permit. If you want to drive a car, you need a license. If you want to get married, you need a license. If you want to teach a class in school, you need certification,” Warren said. “It’s not broken. The (permit) system is working. It’s kind of a hassle, but what isn’t?”

permit system works? there are no auto accidents in WY? no one ever messes up during construction? all teachers are perfect- no sexual or physical abuse, and no brain washing? there's no divorce? he forgot about daycares, doctors, lawyers, social workers, nurses, mechanics, insurance agents... please sir, show me anything that requires licensure/ permit that completely solves all problems.
permit/ licensure is not the be all, end all in fixing problems.

[relictele]

you can get them to support any candidate that promises to "do something about it".

Maybe socialism IS the answer - lots of promises, lots of politicians, no results and no accountability.

[RightWhale]

In the years since Alaska's Concealed Handgun Permit began, it has made no difference whatsoever besides eliminating confusion between local municipalities.