Posted on 03/03/2006 8:19:18 AM PST by Ezekiel2517
Indeed!
I hope Ante develops a taste for prison food. These trials seem to take a very, very long time.
Fine, on with the trial.
Indeed!
I hope Ante develops a taste for prison food. These trials seem to take a very, very long time.
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Intellectual surrender, disguised as triumphalism. :-)
Intellectual surrender, disguised as triumphalism. :-)
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Moral surrender, undisguised. :-p
Intellectual surrender, disguised as triumphalism. :-)
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Moral surrender, undisguised. :-p
It is, indeed, immoral to accuse a man of war crimes and be unable to back up your claims.
Intellectual surrender, disguised as triumphalism. :-)
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Moral surrender, undisguised. :-p
It is, indeed, immoral to accuse a man of war crimes and be unable to back up your claims.
The bodies of the victims murdered by his soldiers are ample backup, child.
Why do you fear justice, eh?
Well....
Basicaly, same gys that are telling us that Ratko Mladic and Slobodan milosevic are war criminals, tell us that Ante Gotovina is a war criminal.
So,
Gotovina is criminal, or Milosevic is innocente.
Make your choice
And better one than you did in 90-es with Gotovina.
"Storm" was the mass departure of Serbs
Hmm, I detect not one trace of sarcasm in this guy.
More's the pity, really.
The bodies of the victims murdered by his soldiers are ample backup, child.
Why do you fear justice, eh?
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Very weak and uninspiring demagoguery. Victims don't receive justice through the convictions of the innocent. And, as you have so ably demonstrated in your posts above, you don't have any facts to support your contention that Gotovina is responsible.
The criminal Gotovina will not be proved innocent by your simplistic assertions.
Some lies don't become true regardless of how many times you repeat them.
Here is what the Serbs of Krajina and the Serbs of Belgrade said in August 1995 about who is responsible for the evacuation of the Serb population from Croatia. Notice no blame on Gotovina, Tudjman, Susak, etc. Later, when it became convenient to rewrite history, Milosevic and Co. once again blamed the Croats.
BBC Summary of World Broadcasts
August 24, 1995, Thursday
SECTION: Part 2 Central Europe, the Balkins; FORMER YUGOSLAVIA; CROATIA;
EE/D2390/C
LENGTH: 423 words
HEADLINE: KRAJINA SERBS;
Martic ordered Krajina evacuation - Tanjug
SOURCE: Source: Tanjug news agency, Belgrade, in Serbo-Croat 1359 gmt 22 Aug 95
BODY:
[24] The Speaker of the Serb Krajina assembly, Rajko Lezajic, has told a
press conference in Belgrade that the order to evacuate the population of
Krajina was issued by Krajina leader Milan Martic supported by the commander of Krajina Serb army, General Mile Mrksic. The following are excerpts from a report
by the Tanjug news agency:
Belgrade, 22nd August: The president of the assembly of the Republic of Serb Krajina RSK; in Croatia , Speaker Rajko Lezajic, said today that the decision on the evacuation of the population from Krajina , made by the RSK president
Milan Martic and the commander of the main HQ of the Serb army of Krajina Mile
Mrksic , was unreasonable.
At a press conference in Belgrade, also attended by the interior minister in the RSK government, Milivoj Vojinovic, the prime minister' s adviser Milan
Ivanic, and RSK commissioner for refugees Milan Trbulin, Lezajic stressed that
"as the president of the assembly, he was neither consulted nor informed about
that decision" .
Ivanic distributed to journalists copies of the order to evacuate the
population, signed by RSK President Milan Martic. He added that " the session of
the Supreme Defence Council did not have a quorum because, instead of five
members, only two attended - Martic and (army commander Gen Mile) Mrksic" .
Stressing that the assembly and the government do not recognize the
occupation of the RSK, Lezajic put forward RSK authorities' 10 requests to the
international community.
They requested the international community to prevent Croatia from executing its genocidal plans, to ensure Croatia's army leaves the occupied area of the
RSK and proclaim it demilitarized zone, to protect the lives of the Serbs who
remained there and the property of the Serbs who have been driven out, and
immediately to initiate a negotiating process between the RSK and Croatia to
reach an agreement on the return of the expelled people.
"We demand that the sanctions against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia FRY be lifted immediately," Lezajic said and added that Yugoslavia "provided shelter
for the refugees and made utmost effort in caring for them" ...
Asked about the possibility of holding someone responsible for the fall of
the western part of the RSK, Vojinovic said that no order on military withdrawal
had been issued, but that Gen Mrksic offered to resign at a government session.
According to the president of the assembly, the resignation will be discussed
at a session of the assembly, which appointed the army commander...
LOAD-DATE: August 23, 1995
BBC Summary of World Broadcasts
August 29, 1995, Tuesday
SECTION: Part 2 Central Europe, the Balkins; FORMER YUGOSLAVIA; CROATIA;
EE/D2394/C
LENGTH: 667 words
HEADLINE: KRAJINA SERBS;
Belgrade Radio blames Krajina Serb leaders for defeat
SOURCE: Source: Serbian TV, Belgrade, in Serbo-Croat 1730 gmt 26 Aug 95
BODY:
[11] A Belgrade Radio commentator has accused the former chairman of the Serb
Krajina parliament, Rajko Lezajic of sharing the blame for the loss of the
Serb Krajina to Croatia with the Serb Krajina President Milan Martic. Lezajic
had said that Martic should be tried for grand treason. The following is the
text of a report by Serbian TV quoting the commentary:
This is what a Belgrade Radio commentary says: In the centre of Belgrade a
few days ago, the gentlemen of the leadership of the expelled and, one would
also say, deceived people of the Republic of Serb Krajina, tried to explain to
the Yugoslav and world public that only one man and these warmongering
assistants of his are to blame for the Krajina drama. They said so and left,
convinced that they have achieved their aim, cleansed themselves of the blemish and shame, promising their expelled and decimated people to return them again,
albeit not to their homes, but the burned down remains there.
The leadership, that of the assembly or Milan Babic's government, was neither
consulted nor informed about the Krajina president's intention of ordering the
people to perform an act unprecedented in their long history. Thus, they said so
and offered an alleged corpus delicti: President Milan Martic's order about the people's withdrawal and its suffering.
This truly unreasonable act was preceded by, whether we accept it or not, a
too long introduction. Let us for a moment recall the way Krajina Prime Minister
Borislav Mikelic was overthrown and replaced, or - perhaps that is even better -
the course of the Geneva negotiations or the talks about accepting the Vance
plan for Krajina. The still living participant in all this and former chairman
of the Krajina parliament, Mr Rajko Lezajic, now says that he had no idea
about the real intentions of his president who, as he put it, should be tried
for grand treason. And, to make the wonder still greater, immediately after
that, he concludes that there has been no rift in the Serb Krajina leadership,
not even between him and Milan Martic.
In the recent events, immediately preceding the upset of the already former
Prime Minister Borislav Mikelic - whose option was a peaceful solution to the
Krajina issue - the most active person was the Krajina assembly chairman
himself. And now, for war mongering he accuses Milan Martic alone.
The fall of western Slavonia perhaps meant little to the Krajina assembly
chairman. Not a single bullet of defence was fired from the territory of the
Serb Republic where Radovan Karadzic's forces were deployed, although such an
obligation existed in the wake of forming the joint military council. We suppose
that Chairman Lezajic has not forgotten that it is his very signature that
footed the decision to form the joint military council. For Mr Lezajic, there
was no reason for a rift with Milan Martic even when at the time of the attack
on western Slavonia, his president moved the most elite unit from Okucani to a
place where it was threatened with liquidation.
It is a strange and certainly painful option chosen by Lezajic and his clique
if it is known - and it indeed is known - that the decision to interrupt
negotiations on economic cooperation with Croatia was, among others, initialled by him as well. How is it possible that nobody knew about the decision made by
their President Martic, when Croatia had been announcing the aggression for days
and the time and date standing on the proffered corpus delicti clearly show that
it was certainly known in advance that this will happen soon. The next question is on what the Krajina government and parliament did to prevent the drama there from happening and to provide the people with a more secure place from which
they could defend their century-old homes.
Perhaps the answer should be given - albeit honestly - by Krajina Assembly
Chairman Mr Rajko Lezajic himself, the deputies, and everybody who supported
such a policy, it is said in the Belgrade Radio commentary.
What that guy is trying to say?
hague is good when they want Serb heads, but bad when they want Croate heads?
I think it's more along the lines of "Anyone is good when they want Serb heads, but bad when they want Croats to face justice."
His latest assertion about Gotovina's guilt is that the Serbs didn't name him soon enough?
I think it's more along the lines of "Anyone is good when they want Serb heads, but bad when they want Croats to face justice."
His latest assertion about Gotovina's guilt is that the Serbs didn't name him soon enough?
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:-) Too funny! I'm glad that you don't deny what the Krajina Serb leaders said in Belgrade in August 1995. I suppose, therefore, that since you are purely motivated (ahem) by concern for the Krajina Serb victims, you also want indictments against Milan Martic, Mile Mrksic, et al for the forced evacuation of the Krajina Serbs?
Why should I deny anything posted by the likes of you? Yes, it is better just to laugh at it as well as we do you.
Why should I deny anything posted by the likes of you? Yes, it is better just to laugh at it as well as we do you.
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Well nanny nanny boo boo to you too. I'm rubber your glue everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
Fixed that for ya! Yep, sounds good!
...you also want indictments against [Gotovina and his Ustashi thugs] for the forced evacuation of the Krajina Serbs?
Fixed that for ya! Yep, sounds good!
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My apologies. I thought you were over the age of 8. I should have inquired about your age earlier. You shouldn't write in forums without your mommy's supervision.
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