Posted on 03/02/2006 3:01:32 PM PST by Dave S
It's all Dubya's fault! How original!!
Sounds as though the Fox poll was highjacled by C-BS.
I did. Actually there are more Democrats registerd but they are too lazy and dumb to vote. However, if you think you could get an equal number of Republicans to the polls tomorrow as Democrats, you've been smoking something funny.
Maybe the absolute level is not correct but the guys that stick their head in the sand and say Bush's declining poll numbers are meaningless because he isnt running again are nuts. There are more than 450 races for the congress this fall and many of them will be affected by Bush and even if they werent it impacts his ability to get congress to act.
I don't understand why "americans" who respond to these moronic "polls" are all over Bush for this and they were all as quiet as mice when Slick Willie was letting the RED CHINESE do the same thing at the ports in Long Beach. Sorry folks! I don't get it. To me, it's some kind of freaky Commie Pelosi/Boxer thing. This is a "scandal" created by the morons at the DNC and in the Liberal MSM that is being pimped by "outraged" Republicans. Geeeesh.
Me too...in a politically incorrect way.
Actually, IIRC, registration levels in the US are 1/3 demo, 1/3 Pubbie, and 1/3 Ind.
I think USA Today reported on that, but the rest of the MSM buried it.
Is that true?....then why don't they use those numbers?....and do/did you work for a polling company?....
Yes, in 2004 the voting percentages were 37% Dem, 37% GOP. The latest numbers I've seen show a 35% Dem to 33% GOP voting population.
Yes, I use to work in polling first for the Wirthlin Group. Dick Wirthlin was Ronald Reagan's pollster. Then I worked for Yankelovich Partners which before it was taken over by Harris Interactive did CNN/Time's poll. After that I worked for a Republican polling firm, Public Opinion Strategies headquartered in D.C.
I saw how the sausage is made with media polls when I worked for Yankelovich. The partner in charge of the office I worked out of was a hard core Democrat. Media polls are quick and dirty. The client wants them in the field and the results back as quickly and cheaply as possible. Weighting data takes extra time and can add as much as $1000 to the cost of a project. I often pointed out to the partner in charge of the Time poll that are party I.D. numbers were off and we needed to weight the data. He would just laugh and tell me "You're not doing campaign polling anymore son. This is media polling. It doesn't have to be right it just has to be quick."
That should answer it as to why they don't use weighting on these media polls. They really are a joke. Campaign polls will always be the most accurate political polls.
The fault for the low numbers lies with the side pushing something so unpopular.
And you're right, keep it up and the numbers will continue to fall. Shoot, we may even see minus approval ratings if Bush starts in with his guest worker talk after this.
POLITICAL IDENTIFICATION Democrat .. 43% Republican .. 33% Independent ..18% Other.. 3% DK/WA.. 3%
Gee, Johnnie-Boy -- who'da thunk?? What with all those "facts" in support of the Dubai deal...
I guess most Americans are "ignorant" Islamphobes afterall??
Let's see, if one polls 10% more Rats and 18% "Independents" is it possible Republicans can't lose ground?
I almost questioned your post #5...glad I waited. LOL
The fault lies with the clueless people ranting without the facts.
Both polls are accurate.
Just a little too quick on the post, I was.
There have been a bunch of polls with Bush under 40% post-Katrina. He started to recover (back to 50% recently in Rasmussen), but tanked again off the port deal fallout.
I am against that. When I first heard the story, I was against it. I thought the Prez was crazy, and wrong.
*Then* I found out the truth -- and now I'm for the deal.
Most people think "Bush is selling our ports". And they're against that. Most folks will *not* voluntarily go find any other info, so they'll not learn the truth until later, when the deal is looked into in detail.
This poll is nothing, just temporary, based on the MSM repeating lies.
And the really special thing is, when folks find out the truth, in a few weeks, once everyone has looked at this company with a microscope up the private regions (assuming they find nothing), it'll be the opponents of the deal that look like idiots, and the polls will swing the other way.
The MSM lies because lies work temporarily.
This is no big deal.
Well, there's your problem; you don't have the FACTS:
Flashback - December 13, 2004: Dubai, U.A.E., Joins U.S. Container Security Initiative (State Dept.)
US Department of State ^ | December 13. 2004
Posted on 02/21/2006 5:43:48 PM EST by new yorker 77
Becomes first Mideast port to participate in U.S. program
The United Arab Emirates has joined the U.S. Container Security Initiative (CSI) to help secure maritime cargo shipments against the threat of terrorism.
In a December 12 news release, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency (CBP) said the agreement will enable all cargo destined for the United States through the port of Dubai to be prescreened.
CBP will station a small team of officers at Dubai ports to identify sea containers destined for the United States; Dubai customs officials will be responsible for screening containers identified as potential terrorist risks, the U.S. agency said.
Dubai Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation is the sixth-largest port operator in the world and the first in the Middle East to join the CSI, according to the news release.
To date, governments representing 21 countries around the world have signed up to the CSI program, launched by the United States following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
Following is the text of the news release:
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U.S. Customs and Border Protection Department of Homeland Security
First Middle Eastern Port Formally Commits to Target, Pre-Screen and Secure Cargo Destined for the U.S.
12/12/2004
Dubai, UAE -- Today Dubai Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation joined the U.S. Customs and Border Protection's (CBP) Container Security Initiative [CSI] making it the first Middle Eastern port to participate. CBP Commissioner Robert C. Bonner and Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, Executive Chairman of the Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation, signed a declaration of principles to acknowledge the agreement that will enable all cargo destined for the U.S. through the port of Dubai to be targeted and pre-screened.
"The threat of terrorism is real and, it's a global threat. Dubai Customs recognizes the absolute importance of protecting cargo against the terrorist threat. I applaud their bold action of assuming a leadership role in the Middle East," said Commissioner Bonner.
CBP will deploy a small team of officers to the port of Dubai, the 6th largest port operator in the world whose mission will be to target sea containers destined for the United States. Dubai Customs officials, working with CBP officers, will be responsible for screening any containers identified as a potential terrorist threat.
The primary purpose of CSI is to help protect the global trading system and the trade routes between CSI ports and the United States. By collaborating with foreign customs administrations, CBP is working towards a safer, more secure world trading system.
Under CSI, CBP has entered into bi-lateral partnerships with other governments to identify high-risk cargo containers and to pre-screen them before they are loaded on vessels destined for the United States. Today, governments representing 21 countries have signed up to implement CSI.
"I congratulate the Dubai Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation on this historic event. They are now partnering with the United States and are a leader in protecting the global trading system," said Ambassador to the UAE [United Arab Emirates] Michele Sison.
CSI did not exist before 9/ll. It was proposed by Commissioner Bonner and launched in January 2002. CSI has been accepted globally as a bold and revolutionary initiative to secure maritime cargo shipments against the terrorist threat. This initiative will continue to expand to strategic locations around the world.
The World Customs Organization (WCO), the European Union (EU), and the G8 [Group of Eight major industrialized economies] support CSI expansion and have adopted resolutions implementing CSI security measures introduced at ports throughout the world.
The 32 operational ports in Europe, Asia, Africa, and North America include: Halifax, Montreal, and Vancouver, Canada; Rotterdam, The Netherlands; Le Havre, France; Bremerhaven and Hamburg, Germany; Antwerp and Zeebrugge, Belgium; Singapore; Yokohama, Tokyo, Nagoya, and Kobe, Japan; Hong Kong; Goteborg, Sweden; Felixstowe, Liverpool, Southampton, Thamesport, and Tilbury, United Kingdom; Genoa, La Spezia, Naples, and Gioia Tauro, Italy; Busan, Korea; Durban, South Africa; Port Klang and Tanjung Pelepas, Malaysia; Piraeus, Greece; Algeciras, Spain; and Laem Chabang, Thailand.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is the agency within the Department of Homeland Security charged with the protection of our nation's borders. CBP unified Customs, Immigration, and Agriculture Inspectors and the Border Patrol into one border agency for the United States.
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