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Glendale may ban gun sales on city land (CA)
LA Daily News ^ | 2/28/2006 | Alex Dobuzinskis

Posted on 02/28/2006 3:13:23 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/28/2006 3:13:26 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Travis McGee; goldstategop; William Tell
BANG!
2 posted on 02/28/2006 3:15:32 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

"They can have a gun show at a private facility," Manoukian said. "We're not banning gun shows, we're just banning gun shows at public facilities."

In the corporate world, this is called project creep..no, they can't have shows at public facilities, but as long as that ban is in effect, why can't we ban them at private facilities..step one (no public facilities) invariably leads to step two (no private facilities either)..


3 posted on 02/28/2006 3:17:42 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: neverdem
Never been to a Glendale show, but Kalifornicate shows are jokes, period. The antigun fascists have all but completely eroded gun rights in the golden state.

Now your shows are as much beef jerky and t-shirts as guns.

In fact, at the last show I attended at the Cow Palace in San Fran, there was more junk than guns.

By contrast, I attended a show in Tulsa, OK, this last weekend. There were over 2000 tables. Machine guns. Silenced weapons. Hi capacity magazines.

It was beautiful!

4 posted on 02/28/2006 3:18:04 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: neverdem

Yeah heaven forbid those college kids get to thinking we live in a free country where a person can decide for himself how he will lead his life.

We need morons like this guy to make those hard choices for us.


5 posted on 02/28/2006 3:19:04 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and improved redneck)
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To: neverdem

"But ... having a gun show at city facility across the street from the community college just sends the wrong message to the youth and our community, (and) communities around Glendale as well."

It tells them people are free to exercise their Constitutional rights. I guess that's the wrong message in Cali.


6 posted on 02/28/2006 3:28:27 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: neverdem

In 1994 I registered 120 new Republican voters at that show.


7 posted on 02/28/2006 3:31:20 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: L98Fiero
I guess that's the wrong message in Cali.

Just another facet of a Blue State Mentality

8 posted on 02/28/2006 3:40:23 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: neverdem
The ordinance would also ban gun possession on city property, with exceptions for law enforcement, movie shoots and other cases.

IOW,only the really important pretty people or those who can buy themselves a pass...

9 posted on 02/28/2006 3:42:53 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
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To: neverdem

Just guessing here but could be cheaper sales taxes outside the city anyway.


10 posted on 02/28/2006 4:11:04 PM PST by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: neverdem
"But ... having a gun show at city facility across the street from the community college just sends the wrong message to the youth and our community, (and) communities around Glendale as well."

I guess the 2nd Amendment sends the wrong message, too. I'd like to examine the curriculum at the CC to see what this guy thinks is the "right" message to be sending to youth. They pulled this BS in Seattle about 9 years ago - banned gun shows from city facilities because they supposedly were inconsistent with "family values" - even as they were building the Jimi Hendrix Museum on city property, a tribute to a guy who ODd on drugs and alcohol, and screwed every groupie he could get his hands on. Family values, indeed.
11 posted on 02/28/2006 4:14:33 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: neverdem

They are banning freedom.


12 posted on 02/28/2006 4:14:50 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: Supernatural
They are banning freedom.

bump!

13 posted on 02/28/2006 4:58:11 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: neverdem

There is a terrible irony in this story. Glendale has a large population of Armenians; The Mayor's name hints that he is of Armenian descent.

Less than 100 years ago Armenians in their homelands stood in dire need of armed defense. They were subjected to massacres, forced deportations, starvation, and expropriation of possessions and property.

What gall; what naivete; what ignorance it takes for one of their own to help lead a people down the path to disarmament, whose immediate ancestors were the victims of genocide.


14 posted on 02/28/2006 5:42:12 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: concentric circles; calcowgirl; All

Lest we forget:

Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): 20 000 000

There are basically two schools of thought when it comes to the number who died at Stalin's hands. There's the "Why doesn't anyone realize that communism is the absolutely worst thing ever to hit the human race, without exception, even worse than both world wars, the slave trade and bubonic plague all put together?" school, and there's the "Come on, stop exaggerating.

The truth is horrifying enough without you pulling numbers out of thin air" school. The two schools are generally associated with the right and left wings of the political spectrum, and they often accuse each other of being blinded by prejudice, stubbornly refusing to admit the truth, and maybe even having a hidden agenda. Also, both sides claim that recent access to former Soviet archives has proven that their side is right.

Here are a few illustrative estimates from the Big Numbers school:

Adler, N., Victims of Soviet Terror, 1993 cites these:

Rummel, 1990: 61,911,000 democides in the USSR 1917-87, of which 51,755,000 occurred during the Stalin years.

Chistyakovoy, V. (Neva, no.10): 20 million killed during the 1930s.

Dyadkin, I.G. (Demograficheskaya statistika neyestestvennoy smertnosti v SSSR 1918-1956 ): 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" for the USSR overall, with 34 to 49 million under Stalin.

Gold, John.: 50-60 million.

Davies, Norman (Europe A History, 1998): c. 50 million killed 1924-53, excluding WW2 war losses. This would divide (more or less) into 33M pre-war and 17M after 1939.


http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm


15 posted on 02/28/2006 5:45:39 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: concentric circles
Armenian Genocide
16 posted on 02/28/2006 5:48:14 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

rmanoukian@ci.glendale.ca.us


17 posted on 02/28/2006 5:52:37 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: neverdem

Oh, brother!


18 posted on 02/28/2006 8:08:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: LouAvul

"Hi capacity magazines."

I bought 2 for my Glock this past weekend in MS. It was a good show, too. Lots of families there. That probably chaps Cali as well.


19 posted on 03/01/2006 6:10:47 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: LouAvul

"By contrast, I attended a show in Tulsa, OK, this last weekend. There were over 2000 tables. Machine guns. Silenced weapons. Hi capacity magazines."


Here in Denver the gun shows are a joke. They have shrunk in size and conatin mostly junk.


20 posted on 03/01/2006 6:37:27 AM PST by CodeToad
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