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The Devil Comes Back From Georgia (Stalin's resurgence in Russia - God help us!)
Reason ^ | February 28, 2006 | Cathy Young

Posted on 02/28/2006 9:47:56 AM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/28/2006 9:47:59 AM PST by neverdem
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To: GarySpFc; RusIvan; Romanov; Hill of Tara; jb6

More misinformation from the Boston globe ping.


2 posted on 02/28/2006 9:50:47 AM PST by x5452
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To: neverdem
Now there're Russian Communists for 'ya.

Still worshiping someone who's been dead for 50 years.

That'll really help stimulate their economy.

If they were smart, they wouldn't be Communists.
3 posted on 02/28/2006 9:53:05 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy ( Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: neverdem

Gulag denial is just as bad as Holocaust denial....we must keep reminding the left of that fact.


4 posted on 02/28/2006 9:53:25 AM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
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To: neverdem; sure_fine

This'll make the leftist, socialist, commie, fascist lib-dem trash here, happy, as he's one of their icons.


5 posted on 02/28/2006 9:55:13 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: neverdem

Dead wrong. Nazism was in a sense an aberration in German identity and history. That's why it has been possible to repudiate it - it does not go to the roots of "Germanity". Stalinism, OTOH, was not an aberration but an adequate and direct manifestation of a pretty long and sordid historical identity. That's why there are such difficulties with its repudiation.


6 posted on 02/28/2006 9:55:53 AM PST by GSlob
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To: conservativeharleyguy

The Globe is spinning statistics to create a falisy. The majority of Russians if you read the article do not feel Stalins effect was positive. Futher of those who do many consider that Russia would probably speak german today if not for Stalin in WWII, they still regard Stalin as an evil bastard but regard his somewhat more of his actions as having been positive than negative.

The Globe is spinning a tall tail. I'll take Secretary Rice over them any day:

Statements by Secretary Rice:

"I want to be very clear. It isn't the Soviet Union. You know this place. This Russian Government is not the Soviet Government and sometimes people overstate this to say things have gone all the way back"

http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2006/59375.htm

"This is not the Soviet Union; let's not overstate the case. I was a Soviet specialist. I can tell you that Russia bears almost no resemblance to the Soviet Union."

http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/2006-41-23.cfm


7 posted on 02/28/2006 9:57:03 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

Russia sucks.


8 posted on 02/28/2006 9:58:52 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: GSlob
You say 'dead wrong' but I don't see how anything you said contradicts the article. Just because there are deep reasons for 'Gulag denial' does not make it less of a danger.
9 posted on 02/28/2006 10:09:05 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Its really imaginary propping up of one of their heros by a leftist publication.

If you read the whole article it's clear that the data does not support the assertions.


10 posted on 02/28/2006 10:10:18 AM PST by x5452
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To: TalonDJ

GSlob is a racist (he's called Russians baboons on other threads). Just an FYI.

As for 'deep reasons' you'll note that GSlob never mentions what the deep reasons are or provide any support for them, he just insist they exist.

Most Russians hate Stalin, and i know this having been there, but even the article makes that fact plain.


11 posted on 02/28/2006 10:11:50 AM PST by x5452
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To: neverdem
I'm sure there are liberal commie hippies from the Fremont area of Seattle are scouring Russia and Eastern european junkyards for a Stalin Statue to add to their collection of monuments to their heros. They already have a statue of Lenin erected in their town and have renamed the area, "Lenin Square".


12 posted on 02/28/2006 10:14:40 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: TalonDJ
My "dead wrong" was referring solely to the parallel between Nazism and stalinism. IMHO, nazism was a superficial phenomenon, thus relatively easy to destroy and repudiate, while stalinism was/is much more fundamental to the whole way of life which engendered it. A more proper comparison would be between a deep skin blemish and metastatic melanoma.
14 posted on 02/28/2006 10:17:08 AM PST by GSlob
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To: neverdem

Who said the atheists don't beleive in God?


15 posted on 02/28/2006 10:20:00 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: neverdem

At least Stalin made the trains to Siberia run on time!


16 posted on 02/28/2006 10:20:57 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: x5452

I heard their is trend in russia now to be sporting clothing with CCCP written on it. Its considered hip now.

That american figure skater, Johnny Weir, was seen at the olympics wearing a jacket with CCCP on it. What a moron.


17 posted on 02/28/2006 10:21:37 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican; sure_fine

Target of opportunity, IMO.


18 posted on 02/28/2006 10:21:40 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: x5452

Cathy Young is a libertarian, and is herself an immigrant from Russia. Although she was still a child when she came here, she knows the true evil of communism. She isn't someone I always agree with, but she's very careful with the facts.


19 posted on 02/28/2006 10:22:59 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Creationism Is Not Conservative!)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

The story I'd heard is that SSSR clothing was popular at the Olympics this year, not in Russia.


20 posted on 02/28/2006 10:26:45 AM PST by x5452
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