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Great Britain: Drive one of these? You're crass and irresponsible, says minister on warpath
The Times (U.K.) ^ | February 27, 2006 | Darren Webster

Posted on 02/27/2006 5:47:39 PM PST by Stoat

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I hate to stoop to the level of name-calling as that's the preferred modus operandi for Dems and Leftists when they don't have anything coherent to say (which is most of the time); but in this case it's hard to resist.  someone named "Mr. Ladyman" is telling me that I'm an evil and uncaring person if I drive a car that's bigger than his...it would be hilarious if it wasn't yet another nail in the coffin of freedom.

I'm wondering if "Mr. Ladyman's" opinion might be tempered somewhat if he were to ride along with firefighters and EMS crews for a few months....he would quickly notice that quite often the "winner" in an auto accident (the car and occupants receiving the least damage/injury) will be the bigger and heavier car.  Not always, of course, but often enough to suggest to most folks that the laws of physics do indeed apply.

There are a whole lot more reasons than a desire to go offroad which motivate people in their auto buying choices...among them is a desire to avoid serious injury and death as much as possible while on the highway.

1 posted on 02/27/2006 5:47:43 PM PST by Stoat
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he would quickly notice that quite often the "winner" in an auto accident (the car and occupants receiving the least damage/injury) will be the bigger and heavier car.

You do realize of course that the bigger heavier car is
going to be paying the larger premium?


2 posted on 02/27/2006 5:54:55 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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4X4's are causing the World's climate to change? That's a Honda CRV pictured, not exactly a gas guzzler.


3 posted on 02/27/2006 5:57:41 PM PST by popdonnelly
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You do realize of course that the bigger heavier car is
going to be paying the larger premium?

Yes, that's a primary point of the article:.

"Owners of cars with high emissions of carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, face higher taxes. "

4 posted on 02/27/2006 5:58:32 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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4X4's are causing the World's climate to change? That's a Honda CRV pictured, not exactly a gas guzzler.

And you were expecting accuracy from a Leftist rag like the Times?  :-)

5 posted on 02/27/2006 6:01:14 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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The earth is below its optimal temperature. The best thing for the environment would be to introduce additional green house gasses. Carbon dioxide is highly beneficial. It stimulates the growth of trees; tree-huggers would approve if they were rational. CO2 benefits all plant life; it is very "green." With the stimulation of plant life, animal life would become more abundant. Endangered animal species would be saved. There would be increased speciation, more species, in both the plant and animal kingdoms. Human starvation would disappear. Do some good - drive an SUV. Too many idiots are buying hybrids and destroying the environment.
6 posted on 02/27/2006 6:03:38 PM PST by ChessExpert (MSM: America's one party press)
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The earth is below its optimal temperature. The best thing for the environment would be to introduce additional green house gasses. Carbon dioxide is highly beneficial. It stimulates the growth of trees; tree-huggers would approve if they were rational. CO2 benefits all plant life; it is very "green." With the stimulation of plant life, animal life would become more abundant. Endangered animal species would be saved. There would be increased speciation, more species, in both the plant and animal kingdoms. Human starvation would disappear. Do some good - drive an SUV. Too many idiots are buying hybrids and destroying the environment.

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7 posted on 02/27/2006 6:05:43 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Oh those lovable MPs.
Sign onto Kyoto then punish the people because you didnt have a plan


8 posted on 02/27/2006 6:06:15 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Again, it is all about moneys cant say the word politician without saying taxes too. It is in their blood.


9 posted on 02/27/2006 6:08:19 PM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Oh those lovable MPs.
Sign onto Kyoto then punish the people because you didnt have a plan

There are a breathtaking number of utterly braindead Lefties here in the USA who passionately embrace Kyoto in it's full absurdity and are violently angry with President Bush for not signing on to it.  Among them are many Democrat representatives......we have our own loonies who would be saying and doing the exact same things if they were in power.

10 posted on 02/27/2006 6:11:09 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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By the way just what kind of impact is 187,000 cars gonna make on the entire nations emmisions levels?


11 posted on 02/27/2006 6:11:16 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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In ten years they will be whining about disposal of the hybrids batterys polluting land fills


12 posted on 02/27/2006 6:13:14 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Again, it is all about moneys cant say the word politician without saying taxes too. It is in their blood.

Agreed....in this case they are saying "We know that you want a big, comfortable, roomy and safe car, so we will embrace bad science to justify our guilt-tax that we will impose upon you for not buying a car that is more likely to kill you in an accident."

13 posted on 02/27/2006 6:14:41 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Now you've done it! The lib's are now going to accuse those driving larger vehicles of having an "unfair advantage" in vehicle crashes and thereby owners of these larger vechicles must be penalized by being struck in the head with a sledge hammer by a trained government "Vehicle Injury Adjudicator" so to equalize the injuries for all parties involved....


14 posted on 02/27/2006 6:16:37 PM PST by snoringbear
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By the way just what kind of impact is 187,000 cars gonna make on the entire nations emmisions levels?

Stoats aren't known for their math skills, but my offhand guess would be "nearly zero".   :-)

15 posted on 02/27/2006 6:17:17 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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lemme see....carry the one..

Yup nearly zero!


16 posted on 02/27/2006 6:19:34 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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In ten years they will be whining about disposal of the hybrids batterys polluting land fills

It may be even sooner than that....I recall an article projecting the lifespan of those batteries at less than five years, if my memory serves.  Replacing them was pegged at many thousands of dollars.

Although one may be able to make the car work with the original batteries for ten years, after a short time the battery's efficiency decreases....which means that a progressively greater amount of gas is used.

A lousy investment with no real-world benefit.

17 posted on 02/27/2006 6:22:02 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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England is doomed with leadership like this.


18 posted on 02/27/2006 6:30:58 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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On top of all that Ive read the paramedics refuse to use the jaws of life on the hybrids because of fears that they will sever a 400? amp cable in the process.


19 posted on 02/27/2006 6:34:59 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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England is doomed with leadership like this.
 

My great hope is that the good, decent, hardworking Brits will soon rise up and take their country back from it's descent into the Socialist hellhole that it is sliding into.

They have been stalwart allies and dependable friends, and they deserve far better than this.

20 posted on 02/27/2006 6:35:45 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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