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Should we discriminate on ports deal? You bet! [Buchanan is right for America]
World Net Daily ^ | 2 -25-06 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/27/2006 11:47:46 AM PST by ex-snook

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To: Thorin
No, all of them believed in the American system of protective tariffs.

"Believed"? All of them, as politicians, realized how effective tariffs can be as a political strategy.

It was TR who declaimed, "Thank God I am not a free trader."

Often quoted, but never placed in its original context. I wonder why that is?

But if you want to think of Lincoln and Taft as "socialists," go right ahead.

Putting words in someone else's mouth is so much nicer than actually going through the difficult task of coming up with a coherent argument on one's own, isn't it?

61 posted on 02/27/2006 12:49:40 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
>>>>>>>Are you honestly claiming that Buchanan - a man who is clearly an enthusiast for political and military history - never heard the phrase in his life until he scanned the ads in a recent issue of Chronicles?

I am claiming that non-Nazis use the phrase "blood and soil." You set out to smear Buchanan, and then erupt in non-sequiturs when I point out other conservatives who use the phrase.

>>>>>Maybe a book by Michael Novak?

Novak is a joke. A dissenter on Humanae Vitae, an open admirer of Andrew Sullivan's pro-sodomy antics, and a man who claimed that Latin America's problem is that it didn't experience the Reformation. Which strikes me, as it struck Tom Fleming, as a pretty outrageous statement for a supposed Catholic theologian to make.

Of course, the neocons have no problem embracing an open and notorious anti-Catholic bigot, such as Christopher Hitchens. This is unsurprising, since their warmed over Trotskyism has nothing to do with Christianity.

62 posted on 02/27/2006 12:50:40 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: wideawake
>>>>>>>"Believed"? All of them, as politicians, realized how effective tariffs can be as a political strategy.

Read what they wrote. They believed in tariffs because they saw them as protecting American workers and our standard of living and preserving America's political independence.

>>>>>>Putting words in someone else's mouth is so much nicer than actually going through the difficult task of coming up with a coherent argument on one's own, isn't it?

No, you're the one who attacked Buchanan's "socialism," which you based on his protectionism. A lazy smear, typical of the neocons, and reflective of an ignorance of American history.

63 posted on 02/27/2006 12:54:13 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: ex-snook

http://www.nationallampoon.com/flashbacks/foreigners/foreigners3.html

We'll be pulling them off our mothers and sisters . . . .


64 posted on 02/27/2006 12:55:08 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: joe fonebone

Actually, one of the other big international shipping firms, PSA International, nearly won the bid. P&O shareholders had accepted their $6.3 billion offer on 1/27/06, but DPW raised the bid to $6.5 billion, and PSO officially dropped out of the race 2/13/06.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4649360.stm
As for your second question, I fail to understand how DPW expects to make money if, as all the apologists for the deal have claimed, nothing is going to change when they take over. This is actually a highly profitable operation that two huge international businesses were in a bidding war over, and the problem is, since the CSX rail corporation sold the operation to P & O in 2004, there’s no American firm in the business that has the money to outbid these international giants.


65 posted on 02/27/2006 12:57:05 PM PST by ER Doc
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To: ex-snook

You can't really enjoy Pat's work unless you can read it in the original German.


66 posted on 02/27/2006 12:57:21 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: raybbr; DTogo; AZ_Cowboy; Itzlzha; Stellar Dendrite; NRA2BFree; Spiff; Pelham; Das Outsider; ...

ping


67 posted on 02/27/2006 12:59:20 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funda HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: Soul_of_Chogokin

"they support hamas"

exactly..there are PLENTY of examples of that on my home page.


68 posted on 02/27/2006 1:00:47 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funda HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: wideawake
Buchanan knows his history, he knows the exact provenance of this phrase. Why does he use it?

You've answered your question yourself: he uses it BECAUSE he knows its exact provenance. He probably types "blut und boden" and has AutoCorrect swap the English in for him.

69 posted on 02/27/2006 1:01:02 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: MikeA
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton:

“Senator Menendez and I don’t think any foreign government company should be running our ports

Hillary gets a Chihuahua.

70 posted on 02/27/2006 1:01:25 PM PST by Stentor
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To: kellynch

Oops! No more invitations to Hardball.


71 posted on 02/27/2006 1:02:47 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Petronski

ROFL!


72 posted on 02/27/2006 1:07:16 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Reagan Man

And the UAE's govt. is implicated in any of that how? Our banks were used for Al Qaeda funding too. American citizens have been arrested for being members of Al Qaeda. WE BETTER IMPEACH BUSH FAST!!!


73 posted on 02/27/2006 1:08:02 PM PST by MikeA (New York owes America an apology for Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer)
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To: Thorin
Isn't it great that few have even attempted to refute Pat's article. What bugs some posters is Pat puts America before all countries and working American citizens before new world order economic interests.

Pat is obviously right for America. He is like an old time prophet calling attention to needed corrections and just like them, he is hated for it.

74 posted on 02/27/2006 1:08:32 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

An excellent page, I might add..


75 posted on 02/27/2006 1:09:38 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: ex-snook

With the news breaking right now about the Coast Guard report, I predict this deal is completely dead, and no number of greedy businessmen and unthinking androids will be able to save it.


76 posted on 02/27/2006 1:10:06 PM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: ex-snook

buchanan refutes himself...


77 posted on 02/27/2006 1:10:12 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Thorin
I am claiming that non-Nazis use the phrase "blood and soil."

They don't use it in earnest - they use it as a reference precisely because of its historical connotations.

If I were to say "Zimbabwe's Mugabe has taken a real 'blood and soil' approach to the presence of white farmers in his country" I would be using the phrase in the normal way a non-Nazi uses it.

It is very odd for a non-Nazi to use it sympathetically, as descriptive of his own worldview - which is clearly how Buchanan is using it.

You set out to smear Buchanan, and then erupt in non-sequiturs when I point out other conservatives who use the phrase.

Provide the exact quote from the Chronicles ad, then, and enlighten us.

Now this is a smear indeed.

Novak is well-known for his renunciation of his disobedient stand on Humanae Vitae and defends it strenuously. Novak has written far more articles criticizing artificial contraception than Buchanan ever has.

He is not an admirer of sodomy or the obnoxious sodomy purveyor Andrew Sullivan.

And you'll have to source those Latin America comments.

Which strikes me, as it struck Tom Fleming, as a pretty outrageous statement for a supposed Catholic theologian to make.

Novak himself will openly admit that he was not always an obedient Catholic. And Novak specifically wrote a book refuting the Weberian analysis of Catholic culture.

I don't know who these "neocons" you refer to are. Hitchens is a vile, vicious scumbag.

Ah, the old Trotsky libel. "If you oppose isolationism, you are a Trotskyite."

Blah, blah, blah.

78 posted on 02/27/2006 1:11:37 PM PST by wideawake
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To: jpl

Unfortunately...the Coast Guard's concerned were answered and it has no remaining objection to the deal.


79 posted on 02/27/2006 1:13:07 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: sheik yerbouty

"An excellent page, I might add.."

thank you sir!! check back often, i add new articles as i find them.


80 posted on 02/27/2006 1:14:42 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funda HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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