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Kristol: The Long War (The radical Islamists are on the offensive. Will we defeat them?)
The Weekly Standard ^ | March 6, 2006 | William Kristol

Posted on 02/25/2006 2:13:58 PM PST by RWR8189

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1 posted on 02/25/2006 2:14:03 PM PST by RWR8189
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"Parts of the conservative movement now seem to be losing their nerve as well."

It's happening here in the U.S. too; just read all the bizarre apologies for of "moderate" islam in defense of Bush and the P & O deal and it becomes frightenly clear we have now taken the French avenue of appeasement with islam.

2 posted on 02/25/2006 2:17:27 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: RWR8189
"Many liberals, here and in Europe, long ago lost the nerve to wage war--or even to defend themselves--against illiberalism."

No kidding

3 posted on 02/25/2006 2:19:56 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: TheCrusader
The UAE has too much 9/11 victims blood on their hands. They want a fair pass on this deal, but if they could, how would all those that died on 9/11 vote?

Or their families?

Or their friends?

Or those who are informed of the past involvement the UAE has had with known terrorist orgs?

I cannot see this as anything good. Skip the "You're a racist when it comes to Arabs." argument, and tell me why this is a good deal.
4 posted on 02/25/2006 2:25:57 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: RWR8189
"To govern is to choose, and to accept responsibility for one's choices. To govern is not wishfully to await the end of history. To govern is not fatalistically to watch a clash of civilizations from the sidelines."

Indeed.

5 posted on 02/25/2006 2:30:59 PM PST by Reactionary (The Moonbats Need an Enema)
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The liberals think the Third Caliphate is a scare tactic used by conservatives to maintain power. When they figure it out, it will be way too late.


6 posted on 02/25/2006 2:33:39 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: TheCrusader

I'm as anti-Islamist as anyone.

But, hell, we need allies to win this war. The UAE has been solid for us all along. There's no reason to piss on them. This is simply a cynical Democratic game that a bunch of Republicans have fallen for for racialist reasons.

If we're going to wage all-out war on Islam, fine. Let's do it. The draft and nukes and all. But if we're not going to, then we need to make compromises and so forth.

More to the point, we're at war. Our President needs our support, not our whining. If you've nothing useful to say, I suggest, you can best serve the nation by keeping your damned mouth shut.


7 posted on 02/25/2006 2:33:58 PM PST by furquhart (Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
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Yep, we will defeat them. It's in the title of my forthcoming book: "America's Victories: Why the U.S. Wins Wars and Will Win the War on Terror."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595230211/qid=1139189351/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-8051195-6435107?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

8 posted on 02/25/2006 2:41:20 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To those who have taken sides with the pro-DPWorld/UAE contingent of status quo government bureaucrats, enjoy this sweetheart deal. Now you can lie in bed with the dirty "jihadists" who helped sponsor 9-11, who supported the Taliban-Al Qaeda for years, who gave cover to Osama Bin Laden and who gave refuge to terrorists for decades. People need to wake up and understand that "jihadism" is alive and well throughout the ME. Including, in the UAE.


9 posted on 02/25/2006 2:45:25 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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UAE people or government did not sponsor the two Dubai passport holders the Saudis did. The UAE Spec ops soldiers have served bravely in Afghanistan for three years
10 posted on 02/25/2006 3:04:30 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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The UAE is not a solid ally. They require our presence to protect them from Iran. They have taken some positive steps but we would be fools to treat them any differently than any other Muslims, who can reasonably be presumed enemies unless proven otherwise. The UAE is an autocracy and one coup could turn it into a Taliban-like enemy overnight. The people of the UAE by and large hate us, and not one would be convinced of our good will by permitting their autocratic government to conduct this business.


11 posted on 02/25/2006 3:07:05 PM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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For victory in our new worldwide War on Terrorism...

..all we have to do is follow the inspiring 9/11 Example already set by...

The Man Who Predicted 9/11: RICK RESCORLA, ..R.I.P.

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361


...So shared former CIA Director JAMES WOOLSEY shortly after the Attacks of September 11, 2001.

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12 posted on 02/25/2006 3:08:16 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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If the West would only wake up and take a lesson from the Australians. Their leaders have come out with incredibly straight talk to the muslims..."Accept our way of life or go home". I wish President Bush would show some spine and
make that kind of declaration! Don't hold your breath!


13 posted on 02/25/2006 3:08:38 PM PST by EASYACES (Ignorance is curable, but stupidity is forever)
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To: RWR8189

The "chickenhawk" slur is mean and a cheap shot. But isn't it a little offensive to read this lisping girlyman questioning anyone's "nerve"?


14 posted on 02/25/2006 3:17:44 PM PST by AlexandriaDuke
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To: Rockitz

"The liberals think the Third Caliphate is a scare tactic"

And many leftists think a Third Caliphate would be just great. They despise the United States and the West and would love to have a powerful ally that feels the same.


15 posted on 02/25/2006 3:30:10 PM PST by popdonnelly
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Let me fix that for you Bill...

"The Bush administration leads the West. If the West seems to be on its heels, it is because the administration seems to be on its heels. The fact that the left is utterly responsible, and some of the right is silly, is no excuse. "


16 posted on 02/25/2006 4:02:26 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Sad but true. I see it here in my school, where those who are supposed the most liberal in support of free expression, speech, and human rights are the ones the least willing to fight. I astounded a senior today with the litany of terror attacks, starting with the 1970 hijackings and the 1972 Olympics massacre, and she just stared at me with wide-open eyes and a look like, "Why didn't they teach me this in history class?"

My own observation is that the West, like Islam, has a death cult. In Islam, the death cult goes by a number of names and affiliations, but basically followers commit suicide, kill anyone they can, and voice antisemetic, anti-American ravings. The Western death cult is socialism, which also goes by a variety of names and affiliations, but basically followers venerate equality to the point of totalitarianism, oppress and debase anyone they can, and voice anticapitalist, antisemetic, and anti-American ravings. After all, the socialists have murdered 50 to 100 million so far - a figure that makes the Islamists look like pikers.


17 posted on 02/25/2006 4:28:39 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: RWR8189

(Tsk, tsk, tsk. Lost for a theme he resorts to the Charge of the Light Brigade.)
Somebody's splashing on the British Sterling a mite too liberally, sir.
Towel off and carry on!


18 posted on 02/25/2006 5:40:11 PM PST by Graymatter (...and what are we going to do about it?)
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To: LS

A shameless plug if I've ever seen one.


19 posted on 02/25/2006 5:52:46 PM PST by Minn
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To: thoughtomator

OK I'm listening, where's the examples other than two of the nineteen were from the UAE.


20 posted on 02/25/2006 6:47:30 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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