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Two plead guilty in man-boy sex case
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | February 23, 2006 | Onell R. Soto

Posted on 02/23/2006 5:45:23 PM PST by DogByte6RER

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Two years just isn't long enough...

My hat is off to the FBI agent who went undercover to bust these creeps.

He must have had to scrub himself under scalding hot water everyday that he came home from work.

I hope that the FBI and other law enforcement agencies are setting up more undercover stings to catch these perverts.

1 posted on 02/23/2006 5:45:26 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

They should be put down like an aggressive, rabid dog.


2 posted on 02/23/2006 5:47:12 PM PST by AbeKrieger (God Bless America. In God We Trust.)
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To: DogByte6RER

OMG - don't you know that was an unpleasant asignmnet....

>>sting initiated by an FBI agent who infiltrated the North American Man/Boy Love Association, also known as NAMBLA<<


3 posted on 02/23/2006 5:47:24 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Maybe they thought they were at the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes convention.


4 posted on 02/23/2006 5:47:30 PM PST by dfwgator
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I had the same thought. Guess he drew the short straw on that one.


5 posted on 02/23/2006 5:49:34 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Things turn out best, for those who make the best of the way things turn out.--- Jack Buck (RIP))
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To: Michael.SF.
Uhhh, OO-Kaayyy...mmm I'll guess I'll take one for the team!


6 posted on 02/23/2006 5:54:17 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Good, but bad. These perverts were travelling to another country and thus were outside US jurisdiction.

If I travel to Asia and set off the more powerful fireworks available to the public there, will I be arrested by the BATF when I come back?

8 posted on 02/23/2006 6:10:33 PM PST by ikka
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To: DogByte6RER

An FBI bump indeed


9 posted on 02/23/2006 6:11:11 PM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: ikka
Good, but bad. These perverts were travelling to another country and thus were outside US jurisdiction. If I travel to Asia and set off the more powerful fireworks available to the public there, will I be arrested by the BATF when I come back?

They conspired on US territory to commit a crime and took an actual step toward completing the crime (boarding a vessel bound for their sex tourist destination). That is enough under federal law to establish a criminal conspiracy over which the US has jurisdiction. It is not a crime to explode fireworks, so you won't be arrested by BATF if you "conspire" to do so abroad and take an actual step toward the completion of such. My fee for this smart legal opinion: $100. When can I expect payment?

10 posted on 02/23/2006 6:22:47 PM PST by Draco
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there is a fairly recent federal law making "sex-tourism" involving children illegal, no matter where the perv hies off to to do it, period.


11 posted on 02/23/2006 6:24:04 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: DogByte6RER
"We outta castrate these sons-a-b*tches and rename it: The North American My B*lls Lack Attachment society." - Dennis Miller.

From the HBO stand-up comedy special, "The Raw Deal". It's a few years old, but I never forgot that line....lol.

12 posted on 02/23/2006 6:28:09 PM PST by eric_da_grate
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They conspired on US territory to commit a crime and took an actual step toward completing the crime (boarding a vessel bound for their sex tourist destination).

Therefore, if I board a plane for Holland, so that I can smoke pot and partake in prostitution, I can be arrested by US authorities?

13 posted on 02/23/2006 6:34:40 PM PST by opinionator
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there is a fairly recent federal law making "sex-tourism" involving children illegal, no matter where the perv hies off to to do it, period.

That is my point though, in that the US is trying to establish its jurisdiction beyond its borders.

14 posted on 02/23/2006 6:36:55 PM PST by ikka
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You take what you can get when it comes to prosecuting this stuff. If you wait until the perps actually do find children to use you've waited too long. If you pop them on the basis of an expressed opinion you haven't waited long enough. And there may not be a great deal of time between the two.


15 posted on 02/23/2006 6:42:18 PM PST by Billthedrill
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LOL and still laughing


16 posted on 02/23/2006 6:42:22 PM PST by Kimmers
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so that I can smoke pot and partake in prostitution

Planning for your next vacation?

17 posted on 02/23/2006 6:43:12 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won't back down)
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To: ikka
The USA actually does have jurisdiction over USA citizens, beyond our borders.

Do you claim the country the child rapists were intending to travel to and rape children do not have laws against raping children?
18 posted on 02/23/2006 6:47:24 PM PST by sarasmom (I don't care who John Galt is, I just need his email address.)
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To: apackof2

No. Don't need to go to Europe to do those things. 'Medicinal' marijuana can be had in California and prostitutes can be had in Nevada.


19 posted on 02/23/2006 6:52:33 PM PST by opinionator
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Both of those activities are legal in Holland. Child prostitution is not legal in Ensenada, Mexico, where these NAMBLA guys were headed. As another poster pointed out, there are new federal laws against child sex tourism. I believe the statute provides that a US citizen having sexual relations with anyone under sixteen in a foreign country is prosecutable in the US. This is relevant as a few countries have age of consent laws with a minimum age of 12. And a US citizen having sex for money with anyone under 18 anywhere is prosecutable under the new law. The new statute gets around the sometimes difficult aspect of trying to prove a conspiracy (requiring at least two people with an illegal objective) and an overt manifestation of carrying out the conspiracy. Now don't have too much fun in Holland. I bet it is over-rated.


20 posted on 02/23/2006 6:54:25 PM PST by Draco
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