Darwin’s Cathedral

Australia - On Line Opinion ^ | 23 Feb 06 | Hiram Caton

[Tokra]

Creationism isn't a theory.

OK - a "belief" then. You can hardly describe creationism as a scientific fact.

[PatrickHenry]

Very interesting article. Thanks. I've given little thought to Mendel, actually, although I'm certainly aware of his work. I don't know it it belongs in The List-O-Links, because I've included virtually nothing on genetics. It's not really controversial.

[RightWhale]

The Triumvirate of Modernism were Darwin, Freud, and Marx. Marx and Freud are already on the skids, which leaves Darwin as a primary target of the Post-moderns--that's us.

[Right Wing Professor]

DK is bitter because he found out his beloved Kary Mullis has sanity issues.

But it's just one more thing you two have in common, DK!

[Dark Knight]

Nobel issues perfesser? Small dreams, and small pants, RWP? He won a Nobel, you aren't in the competician.

Envy is not your best suite, RWP.

Get a Nobel RWP...

It can't be that tough, you carp on others that got the prize.

Get something big guy.

Earn your ability to dis a Laureate

Third tier scientist, how nice?

DK

[Right Wing Professor]

you aren't in the competician.

Is that like a beautician?

[Dark Knight]

You couldn't make it in the movies, why would you want to try in television?

DK

[gobucks]

I'm not sure the monkey men are really offended actually, so you can stop holding your breath...; and besides, it was actually an accurate portrayal of who we are from their pov, no?

[js1138]

But if you think genetics and DNA is more important to biology than Darwinism you have a mental problem.

That's a bit like arguing about whether the engine or drive train is more important to an automobile.

[gobucks]

Mendel and Pasteur ... don't have any idea about their writings regarding Christ, but now I have a bit of researching to do... Thanks.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

I'm not sure that Mendel's work was ever accurately represented, much less in this article.

I liked the article because of the historical details. I'm not saying all the details are correct, just that the names and publications are available to anyone who wants to look for themselves.

Your call though.

[Dark Knight]

So if you were to chose whether evolution of antelopes was more important to gasoline or diesel engines you would say...

WTF

Moron.

DK

[js1138]

Beware the dark and stormy knight.

[Potowmack]

His "theory" has done a lot of damage to men's souls.

If a simple scientific theory can harm your faith, it may be time to re-examine that faith.

[Right Wing Professor]

Oh, like most 'special people', he's really quite gentle.

[presently no screen name]

The AIDS wackjobs are out in force this morning, not just the ID wackjobs.
Magic and his wife have no idea how to judge if the antiviral drugs are working


Really out in force, it's crowded. It's good the evo's are in their cage.

So what category do you put Magic and his wife - you know, those clueless people, that give God the glory and not the medicine.

[Varda]

Cool! I'd love to see what he wrote in those margins. Has anyone translated it? I'm not surprised that Mendel supported Darwin. They were working at different levels on the cause of speciation. Mendel was looking into the source of variation while Darwin was looking at the larger picture of the effect of time and environment given variation. All I know of Mendel I've read on MendelWeb. His paper isn't that difficult to read.

As for Darwin knowing about Mendel, I know that there is no evidence that he did. At least those who have his papers have found nothing to that effect. It's too bad too. Unfortunately for Darwin, Mendel's discovery wasn't really recognized until the 20th century.

[Varda]

Thanks for that link. MendelWeb is a great resource and I'd read that paper a few years ago. I should read it again. To creationists, Mendel is a stumbling block. They're generally stunned to find out he was an evolutionist.

[Borges]

I would throw in Nietzsche who is as popular and prophetic as ever. Freud isn't going away anytime soon either.

[blowfish]

His "theory" has done a lot of damage to men's souls.

What a pantload. If your faith is so weak that you can't imaging a creator using evolution to meet his ends, you have your own problems to deal with.
Trying to pin all the moral ills of the world on a research biologist, observering and speculating of the origins of species, is such a copout that it would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.