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Arab Co., White House Had Secret Agreement
AP ^ | 2/22/06

Posted on 02/22/2006 6:19:30 PM PST by iPod Shuffle

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To: notigar

Franks KNOWS these people! He has worked with them for a long time! That was his area of responsibility, I think he knows more about it than any of us do.


501 posted on 02/23/2006 8:21:24 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: CobaltBlue

I wasn't aware a Cabinet position was low level. My mistake.


502 posted on 02/23/2006 8:21:49 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Dionysius

Oh. Ok. Everybody is just lying. Dubai is actually a country full of boy scouts helping little old ladies across the street.

Of course, those little old ladies happen to be carrying weapons grade plutonium, but what the heck.


503 posted on 02/23/2006 8:22:14 AM PST by atlaw
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To: Coop

"to the extent possible"


504 posted on 02/23/2006 8:22:14 AM PST by notigar
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To: Coop
As a government contractor. Subject to all U.S. laws, rules, and contractual obligations.

Except, of course, for those routine ones we aren't going to bother them with.

505 posted on 02/23/2006 8:23:24 AM PST by atlaw
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To: notigar

Why did you post that phrase by itself? Could it be that including it in context wouldn't have helped whatever it is you're attempting to argue?


506 posted on 02/23/2006 8:23:26 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

The members of the Cabinet weren't even aware of the deal until CIFIUS munchkins said it was OK.

They want to close ranks and be loyal to each other, well, that's the way things are done in government.


507 posted on 02/23/2006 8:24:51 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue

LOL! I suggest you do a little more research, my hysterical friend. Perhaps you could start by seeing who chairs the CFIUS.


508 posted on 02/23/2006 8:25:27 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop
Okay, break's over. Resume the hysteria.

Now Coop, you know that this isn't any fun without the hysteria. : )

509 posted on 02/23/2006 8:26:22 AM PST by atlaw
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To: Coop

"The company promised to take "all reasonable steps" to assist the Homeland Security Department."

You tell me, is that standard language?


510 posted on 02/23/2006 8:26:42 AM PST by notigar
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To: Coop

Rumsfeld is on record as saying he wasn't aware of the deal until it was approved.

Same with Bush.


511 posted on 02/23/2006 8:27:09 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: notigar

Are you telling me you're quoting contractual language? ('cause you're not - it's the author's writing)


512 posted on 02/23/2006 8:27:58 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: CobaltBlue
Rumsfeld is on record as saying he wasn't aware of the deal until it was approved. Same with Bush.

Yeah, I know. I've actually read more than just blogs and posts to bone up on the facts here. Why don't you try doing the same? Go look up who chairs the CFIUS.

513 posted on 02/23/2006 8:29:05 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

I think I will wait for the Congressional investigations before I accept anybody's word at face value.

From "slam dunk" to "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!" my level of trust in the government is at a low level.

Resume cheerleading.


514 posted on 02/23/2006 8:31:50 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Coop

If the part in quotes: "reasonable steps", isn't in the contract, what is?


515 posted on 02/23/2006 8:32:28 AM PST by notigar
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To: CobaltBlue
I think I will wait for the Congressional investigations before I accept anybody's word at face value.

In other words, no, I am not going to do a basic inquiry via search engine because everyone here including me knows I'm just blowing a lot of smoke.

The Secretary of the Treasury chairs the CFIUS.

516 posted on 02/23/2006 8:34:22 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Much ado about nothing. But it is an election year and it is time to scare people into voting for them.


And all the dims and gop are using this for their own self gain. I hope it comes back to BITE them in the BUTT.


517 posted on 02/23/2006 8:34:55 AM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: CobaltBlue

I'm hoping that if Rumsfeld had known about the deal his committee looked at, he would've nixed it.


518 posted on 02/23/2006 8:37:19 AM PST by notigar
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To: notigar
Oh, I'm sure that part is. But the surrounding words making up the sentence and context are not. As far as what's in the agreement, we don't know.

The conditions involving the sale of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. were detailed in U.S. documents marked "confidential." Such records are regularly guarded as trade secrets, and it is highly unusual for them to be made public.

Again, I don't know the context, but generally I find it quite reasonable for a company to have a clause saying "all reasonable steps" when discussing assisting a government entity in performing its duty.

519 posted on 02/23/2006 8:38:23 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

I just listened to the Undersecretary of the Treasury on C-SPAN. He oversees policy.

So, despite the fact that the Undersecretary is in charge of policy and delegates day-to-day operations, you're saying that the actual Secretary is hands-on for every investigation?

I don't think you know very much about how government actually works. And google won't help you with that.


520 posted on 02/23/2006 8:45:24 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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