Divining W : Inside the God that George Washington Worships ( Was he Deist or Christian ?)

National Review ^ | 02/20/2006 | Michael and Jana Novak

[conservative blonde]

Let that crowd ignore the truth up to the gates of hell. Who cares?

[VOA]

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[mugs99]

I believe it is the same type of thing with Deists praying.

It is exactly the same!
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[DeweyCA]

Have you ever been in combat and heard men crying out for their mothers? They know she can't intervene, but they do it anyway, because it brings them comfort, and it is a natural thing to do. I believe it is the same type of thing with Deists praying.

Washington read his Bible and prayed an hour each morning and an hour each evening, even when not in battle. I don't know of any Christian today who is as faithful as that. By the way, have you read any of Washington's prayers? I have. They often speak clearly of the Trinity of the Christian god. That also is not what a deist would believe.

Finally, I am not saying that Washington was not at all influenced by deism. He probably was; just as Christians today are often unduly influenced by the philosophies of our times.

[Binghamton_native]

He or one of his survivors must have decided to hedge his bet judging by the inscription on his grave marker in Philadelphia.

[Binghamton_native]

from your post: "He resigned during his second term partially to prove that he did not want to be something of a king."

I was not aware that he resigned before finishing his term. The White House site says that Adams became 2nd president in 1797 which would have been the normal start of the next presidency after Washington.

[aimhigh]

All roads must lead to the same God, regardless of what one believes.

Get along well with Muslims do you?

[mugs99]

Washington read his Bible and prayed an hour each morning and an hour each evening, even when not in battle

Weems fable.
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[mugs99]

He or one of his survivors must have decided to hedge his bet judging by the inscription on his grave marker in Philadelphia

Martha was a devout Christian.
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[mugs99]

have you read any of Washington's prayers?

Sorry, in post 48 I called Snowden's comment a Weems fable. I meant the prayers. There are no Washington prayers. The Washington prayer book is a standard Presbyterian prayer book from those days. The handwriting in it is not George Washington's.

Snowden did not know George Washington personally. He met him along with a group of others at a social gathering. His comment was refuted by Ashbel Green.

[MeanWestTexan]

"Is there a religion filter?"

If you are a believing Christian or Jew, the answer to that would be "yes," as both the old and new testament make clear that God rejects prayers made in an unrepentant and/or sinful state. (Lots of passages to the effect X prayed, "but God was deaf or repelled, etc.)

A (Bible-knowledgeable) Christian would go further and state that the only way to be acceptible to God (and thus have your prayers heard) would be to be: truly repetant, be purified ("justified") by Christ (by accepting his sacrifice as a fact and accepting it), and praying "in Christ's name" --- which means, not only praying for the correct reasons, but literally with the fiduciary stewardship of one acting in someone's else's name.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Every time I read one of these threads, I picture debates a few hundred years from now, in which devotees of literal Christianity post the staged pictures of Bill and Hillary walking up to the entrance of a Church (while Bill was President), both carrying Bibles and smiling for the cameras, and say "See, they were Church-going, Bible-believing Christians!".

[stuartcr]

The ones that I know, yes...they haven't shown any desire to kill me, or blow themselves up.

[.30Carbine]

If a non-Christian prays to God, how does the one and only God, not hear that prayer?

I do not believe there really is any way of knowing what God hears...it's just in our faith.

The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD,
But the prayer of the upright is His delight.
Proverbs 15:8

One who turns away his ear from hearing the law,
Even his prayer is an abomination.
Proverbs 28:9

"Most assuredly, I say to you,
whatever you ask the Father in My name
He will give you.
Until now you have asked nothing in My name.
Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full."
~Jesus, The Word of God
John 16:23-24

[mugs99]

LOL!
You've hit the nail on the head!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

George Washington, November 18, 1775, General Orders
from American Memory Collection, Library of Congress
(paragraph breaks for clarity)

The Honorable the Legislature of this Colony having thought fit to set apart Thursday the 23d of November Instant, as a day of public thanksgiving "to offer up our praises, and prayers to Almighty God, the Source and Benevolent Bestower of all good;

That he would be pleased graciously to continue, to >smile upon our Endeavours, to restore peace, preserve our Rights, and Privileges, to the latest posterity; prosper the American Arms, preserve and strengthen the Harmony of the United Colonies, and avert the Calamities of a civil war."

The General therefore commands that day to be observed with all the Solemnity directed by the Legislative Proclamation, and all Officers, Soldiers and others, are hereby directed, with the most unfeigned Devotion, to obey the same.

Sounds like a whole lot of petitionin' goin' on there, LOL!

My have times changed. Can you imagine the reaction of the left if President Bush did this? I'd give my husband's left gonad to be in the front row for that, LOL!

[Tribune7]

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[SES1066]

Good read - bookmarking for later re-read

[kalee]

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