Circumcision battle lands parents of eight-year-old in US court

AFP ^ | 18 Feb 2006 | AFP

[Melas]

Sandbar is right. The decision not to circumcize is huge amongst the birkenstock wearing, no leg shaving vegan crowd.

[sandbar]

Paul also said that women were less than men. Not too fond of that apostle.

[dpa5923]

Actually this article is even vaguer than the first. Is the procedure to prevent further infections or just possible infections? Is the child pre-disposed to a certain type of infection? I would still like to hear the doctor's testimony.

[Sandy]

someone who did NOT read the article to see that it was medical

I read the article; I just don't believe the mom's story.

[danmar]

Then why did God repeal circumicision in the days of the early Church?

Repeal means interdiction, therefore my point...do not mess with human body, as GOD intended to be.

As a side bar, how did GOD repealed the circumcisions and thru "WHO".

[RepubMommy]

If he is a baby that is fine I have no problem with that. But at eight years old

I'm an RN and it is actually done at various ages for various reasons. When it's a younger boy, such as the above, typically it's done due to phimosis, a condition in which the foreskin never retracted like it should have as the infant boy gets older. Normally, for older men, it's done for cosmetic reasons. Either way, they are ALL performed under general anethesia. Our OR schedule typically has 1-2 scheduled per week.

[Squeako]

Bookmark and bump to all that!

[AntiGuv]

I would still like to hear the doctor's testimony as well, but it would take a genuine "necessity" to change my mind, and this sure doesn't sound like one. If this is in fact a persistent problem, then teach the kid to clean himself. Billions of men have seemed to grasp the concept well enough over the millennia.....

[Melas]

Lots of other parents just like me -- Christians, conservatives, etc -- are rejecting the procedure which was done to us, as unnecessary for our kids.

And lots aren't. From what I've read thus far, you seem to be highly offended that other parents are making or have made different choices than you've made.

[sandbar]

Wow, it's amazing how people pick and choose what they want to support their position.

Hmmm, seems that THIS articles states at the age of three, he had two infections that left him swollen and in pain. As well as painful urination. Of course to hear AntiGov's article tell it, it's all preventative.
http://www.cirp.org/news/star-ledger12-03-00/

[RepubMommy]

Yes, I agree eight years old is a little late, which is why I asked if they numb the area

See my previous post, it's performed under general anesthesia if the patient is not an infant.

[Hardastarboard]

No, I'm a Gentile, really. I've got hard evidence, right here in my lap. :-)

[Reddy]

Paul isn't telling them to NOT get circumsized in this Scripture. The preceding verses reveal that Paul is talking about those who are circumcised that are not "walking the talk", IOW they consider the circumcision procedure as their salvation. (vs 12). These circumcised individuals are prompting others to be circumcised so that they can boast about it. (vs l3) Paul is admonishing the reader to boast only in the cross of Jesus Christ. (vs l4) ((What matters is the condition of your heart, not your p#nis.))

[ahayes]

That's a kind of mind-boggling response. . . You seemed pretty gung-ho about the standards of Christianity in your earlier post. So shall we just edit out the Pauline epistles from Christian doctrine because you don't like him?

The fact is that under the New Covenant Christians are not required to be circumcised, and it was rather actively discouraged in the early church.

[RepubMommy]

Personally, as a woman, I do not like an uncircumsized one and I don't care what the current trend, I know NOT ONE woman who disagrees with me. They'll of course except it in the man they love, but prefer cut.

Having just had a baby and bring a participant in pregnancy message boards, this is a huge hot topic subject. The anti crowd will swear the sex is better with an "intact" penis as they like to call it ( as if a circ'ed penis is not intact to the body?) Personally speaking, I am with you. :) I am also the mom of three girls, so this was a moot point in those debates.

[sandbar]

BTW, that article link wasn't TO you as far as disagreeing with you. I just wanted to include you in the info since Cha Cha Chiapet decided to link you a vague article.

[dpa5923]

Is this the same kid?

[Chiapet]

I would still like to hear the doctor's testimony as well, but it would take a genuine "necessity" to change my mind, and this sure doesn't sound like one. If this is in fact a persistent problem, then teach the kid to clean himself. Billions of men have seemed to grasp the concept well enough over the millennia.....

You know, it's entirely possible that the problems is simply that the boy lives with his mother instead of his dad, and she is either unable, unwilling, or just to darn uncomfortable with the topic to teach him to clean himself properly.

[AntiGuv]

You do realize how stunningly ridiculous you look, don't you sandbar, that the link you just posted is to a different case in NJ and not to the IL case we've been discussing in this thread?

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Heh, thanks =-)