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Court won't let Pilgrim family drive to its land (Alaska)
Anchorage News ^ | Feb 14 06 | Anchorage News

Posted on 02/18/2006 10:11:08 AM PST by freedomdefender

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To: CindyDawg
"Which came 1st? The mining road or the park?"


Excellent point!
21 posted on 02/18/2006 11:26:06 AM PST by Steveone (Paradise is a World free of Liberals.)
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To: CindyDawg
Which came 1st? The mining road or the park?

Interesting but irrelevant. There are no active mines. There is an ongoing attempt to have RS2477 roads declared permanent public roads, but it is going nowhere.

22 posted on 02/18/2006 12:40:20 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale

It would be relevant to me if I were on the jury.


23 posted on 02/18/2006 3:05:33 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

It should not be. Most of the crimes as charged have nothing to do with the park or the mine. The access crime is simple trespass.


24 posted on 02/18/2006 3:08:20 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale
Well, if I can get past the potential character problems here, which isn't easy and just concentrate on the issue of the government not allowing a family access across government land to their property, I have to ask who does the land really belong to. The answer is the public, so if they want to cross their own government land and/or a jury says I give you permission then it isn't trespassing. IMO
25 posted on 02/18/2006 3:15:21 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
The answer is the public

That is the beginning of the real question. There is something that we generally don't know with any clarity, and that is who the public is. One thing for sure, it is not any individual person, not you, not me, and not this family.

26 posted on 02/18/2006 3:22:42 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale

That's what we are supposed to believe anyway. (shrug)


27 posted on 02/18/2006 3:32:01 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

The question of who the public is would be vital. The word is used in two entirely different meanings, maybe three, and the equivocation gives rise to many misunderstandings. For example, when we refer to the public corporations, we actually mean the private sector not the public sector. When a person stands to testify in a City Council meeting and claims as a private citizen to represent the public, he is speaking nonsense since he is addressing the representatives of the public--the Mayor and the City Council.


28 posted on 02/18/2006 3:41:18 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale

Well, since I don't believe we should have national parks and that it is a state's right, I guess I've pretty much decided who owns what:')


29 posted on 02/18/2006 4:25:10 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

You would have liked Andy Jackson. Unfortunately, his view did not prevail and has been lost in history in the last 175 years.


30 posted on 02/18/2006 4:31:26 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Why is it that every good property rights case has a Defendant with this kind of baggage that ruins any hope of asserting a national cause?


31 posted on 02/18/2006 4:36:15 PM PST by Teacher317
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