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Unlocking cell secrets bolsters evolutionists
The Chicage Tribune ^
| Published February 13, 2006
| By Jeremy Manier Tribune staff reporter
Posted on 02/13/2006 4:31:16 PM PST by MRMEAN
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To: calex59
"Evolution is by far the biggest liar of the two theories(I lump ID and creationism together). The evos have faked fossils, lied, cheated and fasified evidence from the beginning and are still doing it."
Citations.
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posted on
02/13/2006 5:57:54 PM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: bikepacker67
Why wouldn't EVERYONE at least lean toward intelligent design?
Zero evidence?
I mean, you do understand entropy, yes?
What about it?
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posted on
02/13/2006 5:58:43 PM PST
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: calex59
I, however, find it hard to accept a being that is out there creating all of this. I find it even harder, however, to accept the fact that all this happened by accident. What if it's a "force" that resides beyond the physical universe?
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:00:02 PM PST
by
bikepacker67
(Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
To: Rudder
Ahh, now I undestand you. You do not have a significant understanding of science to itelligently discuss something without making an attack on someone who disagrees with you! What a putz. I have all the understanding I ever need. What I don't need are self righteous people like you disregarding facts and trying to fit them into the theory. Many, many fakes have been uncoverved in evolution. It is, and proven, mathematically impossible for life to have started on earth, given the atmosphere that existed at the time, accidentally. Efforts to reproduce life have always failed, anyone who says differently are liars, including you. Have a nice day:)
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:00:30 PM PST
by
calex59
(seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
To: Dimensio
I mean, you do understand entropy, yes?What about it?
Life seems to thumb its nose at the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
45
posted on
02/13/2006 6:02:08 PM PST
by
bikepacker67
(Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
To: Physicist
Did God evolve? Just appear? Why would God have any relationship with man if man is just another creature on this planet He watches over?
If God didn't make the universe? What does He do? How does He survive?
46
posted on
02/13/2006 6:02:33 PM PST
by
weegee
(We are all Danes now.)
To: weegee
Better question: What is the physical evidence that God exists?
47
posted on
02/13/2006 6:05:05 PM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: MRMEAN
In the last several years Miller and other evolutionary researchers noticed that the flagellum resembled a needle-like structure that bacteria such as salmonella use to inject toxins into living cells. The needle's base has many elements in common with the flagellum, but it's missing most of the proteins that make a flagellum work.
The system seems to negate the claim that taking away any of the flagellum's parts would render it useless. It also suggests how the marvelously complex flagellum could have evolved from simpler forms.
It would make it useless as a flagellum. And to postulate that Oh, it could have been something else and then turned into a flagellum is among the weakest arguments for anything I have ever heard of. So before our eyes evolved into eyes, they were doorstops first, and then became eyes. With that kind of leeway, I am sure you could postulate that the stork brought babies while the sexual organs were evolving.
To: weegee
####I wouldn't dwell on God's hand in creation but to deny the possibility is to deny that God exists####
That's a good point. The evolutionists here will often assert that one can be a Christian and also believe in evolution. While that's technically true, it seems to me that it requires a belief in THEISTIC evolution. That is, evolution that occurred not as a result of wholly naturalistic processes, but as a result of God's guiding hand.
However, many of the same people who insist that Christians can and should embrace evolution, then insist on purely naturalistic evolution as the only version acceptable for discussion in the public schools. But how can Christians accept that? It makes no sense to argue that God exists, but He had nothing whatsoever to do with life on earth, and, in fact, life on earth would look exactly the same even if God didn't exist.
Then there's the tendency of many (though not all) evolutionists to attack and mock Christians, God, and the Bible. They even quite stupidly do this in the midst of the same threads where they're simultaneously arguing that Christians can be evolutionists.
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:06:11 PM PST
by
puroresu
(Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
To: calex59
You have made several statements that are blatantly false about evolution...that's why I assert that you fail to comprehend it. I'm not impugning your intellectual ability, but merely your grasp of the theory of evolution. You say you understand it well enough, then you go ahead and make more false statements.
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:09:03 PM PST
by
Rudder
To: bikepacker67
Life seems to thumb its nose at the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Go outside on a clear day, look up, and become enlightened.
To: ThinkDifferent
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:10:41 PM PST
by
bikepacker67
(Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
To: calex59
It is, and proven, mathematically impossible for life to have started on earth, given the atmosphere that existed at the time, accidentally. Efforts to reproduce life have always failed, anyone who says differently are liars, including you.False statement (or presumption): Evolution is NOT about abiogenesis, never was.
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:11:25 PM PST
by
Rudder
To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:13:22 PM PST
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: VadeRetro
[Crickets chirping]
55
posted on
02/13/2006 6:14:46 PM PST
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: weegee
Are there any evolutionists who believe that God exists but that He played no role in creation/evolution? Evolution is fact. God's role in it is unknown, and may never be known, but that doesn't mean He isn't there.
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:18:05 PM PST
by
The_Victor
(If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
To: bikepacker67
Explain. The 2nd law says that entropy tends to increase in a closed system. The energy provided by the Sun makes the Earth not a closed system, therefore local decreases in entropy are not a contradiction.
To: VadeRetro
The interesting thing about creationist frauds (by which I mean virtually all of creationism) is that their frauds are never corrected. Their bogus quotes are constantly recycled, and the same, tired, 100-year-old "errors" (some might say "lies") are endlessly repeated on their websites.
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:18:38 PM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
To: ThinkDifferent
The energy provided by the Sun makes the Earth not a closed system But the universe as a whole IS a closed system.
Matter/Energy isn't created or destroyed.
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:22:05 PM PST
by
bikepacker67
(Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
To: Rudder
It is only a false statement to evos, because it is matematically impossible for it to have happened, and so evolution is so much BS, along with ID and creationism. Claiming this to be false is just another cop out for evos. If you can say evolution has nothing to do with the beginning of life then you can discount all the facts and how they disprove evolution. Have a nice day.:)
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posted on
02/13/2006 6:22:23 PM PST
by
calex59
(seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
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