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How Did Dick Cheney Break the No.1 Rule of Hunting?
Time Magazine ^ | 02/13/2006 | Timothy Burger

Posted on 02/13/2006 10:38:19 AM PST by SirLinksalot

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To: stylin_geek
If Mr. Cheney turned and focused on a bird, objects behind the bird would tend to disappear, because the eye is focused on the bird.

Bingo! When pheasant hunting with a friend, the dog flushed the bird, I focussed and sighted the bird, it flew over my friend, and I swung my gun high and did not fire. I talked to Ron later about this, and he said that this is not an uncommon situation. He's been shot twice in SD. He's an AVID bird hunter.

181 posted on 02/13/2006 12:41:37 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: SirLinksalot
If Cheney had learned anything from Teddy, he would show up to the press conference with a phoney neck brace.


182 posted on 02/13/2006 12:42:07 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Lurking in Kansas

The left would add:

#4. Don't shoot.


183 posted on 02/13/2006 12:44:16 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Cheney didn't - the guy who got hit is the one who broke the rule!


184 posted on 02/13/2006 12:44:27 PM PST by CyberAnt (America - the greatest nation on the face of the earth!)
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To: Always Right

Of course you realize, it's STILL safer to go hunting with Dick Cheney than it is to go driving with Ted Kennedy!

(Thanks to Howie Carr for that one)


185 posted on 02/13/2006 12:44:38 PM PST by ssaftler (Politically Correct isn't! Progressives aren't!)
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To: Voter#537
Yes,
The one of him in Nam, looking down the barrel

Well, at least he had the select-fire lever on semi-auto. :)

186 posted on 02/13/2006 12:45:43 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MineralMan
He has never been bird hunting.

It requires prior agreed-upon modified rules

187 posted on 02/13/2006 12:46:43 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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To: drahthaar

Welcome abroad!


188 posted on 02/13/2006 12:46:43 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: MineralMan
 
In the case of the type of hunt I'm describing, strictly following those rules will prevent anyone from being shot.

I'm telling you and any other engineer or engineering professor will also tell you that there is a MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) in any system.  I'd love to say that this is my opinion and is a debatable point, but it simply isn't.  It's just one of those facts of nature that simply cannot be argued with. Like 1+1=2 ... well I guess you can argue against it, though one doesn't know why.

Now, your system may have a failure rate of 1:1000 years, but all that means is that one accident will happen some time in the next 1000 years.  Maybe not until 3006, but maybe 2006 and not again until 3007.

I'm not complaining about your rules for minimizing risks. I'm simply saying your rules minimize the risks, they will never eliminate them.

 


189 posted on 02/13/2006 12:46:54 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: ssaftler

Of course you realize, it's STILL safer to go hunting with Dick Cheney than it is to go driving with Ted Kennedy!

(Thanks to Howie Carr for that one)

AND: More people have been killed by Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile than Dick Cheney's shotgun.


190 posted on 02/13/2006 12:47:02 PM PST by teddyballgame (red man in blue state)
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To: opinionator

I believe that when you hunt with a group you are assigned areas where you to be. If you stray out of your assigned area you're bound to get dinged.

What I want to know is what was the SS doing. Where they taking a smoke break instead of keeping a close eye on who was where with a weapon?


191 posted on 02/13/2006 12:48:30 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush Code Pink, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the womyn)
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To: SirLinksalot
Isn't the No. 1 Rule Of Hunting: Never go crawling around in the tall grass looking for quail corpses without telling other party members?

At least a 'Tally Ho!' would seem appropriate...

193 posted on 02/13/2006 12:50:31 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: lugsoul
I think the fact that the VP shot someone is less of a story than the fact that his office put out a statement saying he didn't do anything wrong. If you pull the trigger when your gun is pointed at someone you don't intend to shoot, you have done something wrong. Period.

This is not a rifle range situation with a rangmaster. Ever been in the field? Ever heard of troops being hit by friendlies? Why do people get in traffic accidents? Some people are too pompous beyond belief.

194 posted on 02/13/2006 12:51:07 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: XeniaSt
"My Daddy once told me "common sense" is not uniformly distributed!"


Your Daddy was correct!

Took me a few bear paw smacks upside of my head and a few more ... "you're a mutton head!" ... before mine started to develop.


God, I love and miss that man!





195 posted on 02/13/2006 12:52:58 PM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: MineralMan

"From below me, to my left, some guy with dog poop for brains actually let go with a full auto M16."

What an arse. I don't deer hunt for that reason, and actually wear my Army-liberated flak jacket when on my own property some times during deer season. (Poachers, in addition to being theives, are idiots.)

Although I admit shooting feral pigs from my pickup with an AR-15 and a cruddy Romanian AK-47 (semi-auto) clone --- huge problem animal for ranchers. I've probably taken 10 shoots when shooting w/out glasses.


197 posted on 02/13/2006 12:56:03 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: XeniaSt; drahthaar; MineralMan; dirtboy
Wow! That is some conclusion! Best comments on this thread, with maybe a couple of exceptions, have been from mineralman, and dirtboy. Three out of the four pinged here I'd hunt with, Zenia, I have some serious reservations about you.

It's the first post from the person and you have him pegged for a troll? Proof? As a viking kitty associate, I detected nothing wrong with the post.
198 posted on 02/13/2006 12:56:06 PM PST by Issaquahking (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. Choose wisely, the MSM hasn't)
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To: SirLinksalot
Accidents do happen, of course, but Cheney's got to take the heat on this for being such a dumb-ass. If you don't know what's behind your target, don't pull the trigger. Moreover, when you're hunting birds, you're especially cognizant of the height at which you're aiming your gun lest you chance to hit a dog on point or a friend going in to flush out the birds.

There's no excuse for this at all.

199 posted on 02/13/2006 12:57:15 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Cobra64
"Ever been in the field? Ever heard of troops being hit by friendlies?"

This was a canned hunt, not combat.

Most of the time, people get in traffic accidents because they do something wrong. The accident where both parties are paying attention and following the rules of the road is the exception.

If someone shoots another person with #8 birdshot in a field, the shooter did something wrong. Period. For you to contend otherwise is to send a dangerous message to young outdoor sportsmen.

200 posted on 02/13/2006 12:58:36 PM PST by lugsoul ("Try not to be sad." - Laura Bush)
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