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Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^
| 12 February 2006
| John Glennon
Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Heartlander; js1138
Where do you ‘believe’ your philosophical worldview ‘ultimately’ comes from?js1138, I do believe Heartlander's trying to get you to say, um...
Sh*t is not designed – and I do not think anyone would look for truth from sh*t. But for anyone to demand that no ‘design’ was required for intelligence, they must rely on something to form their truth to counter accusations that contradict their philosophy from… basically sh*t.
So come on JS1138, let us all hear what ‘you’ base your worldview upon…
2,401
posted on
03/02/2006 3:08:58 PM PST
by
jennyp
(WHAT I'M READING NOW: The Chicago Manual of Style, 14th ed.)
To: jennyp
2,402
posted on
03/02/2006 3:10:52 PM PST
by
jennyp
(WHAT I'M READING NOW: The Chicago Manual of Style, 14th ed.)
To: jennyp
Jenny, you can call it a snowflake if you like…
To: Heartlander
philosophical worldview
What's that?
2,404
posted on
03/02/2006 3:27:13 PM PST
by
ml1954
(NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
To: ml1954
To: Heartlander
You forgot the second part....
philisophical
Is this a debate about anwers.com defintions?
2,406
posted on
03/02/2006 3:44:22 PM PST
by
ml1954
(NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
To: Heartlander
Where do you ‘believe’ your philosophical worldview ‘ultimately’ comes from? That is beyond my understanding. As I said, I am deficient in my ability to understand theology. Such questions don't make sense to me.
I can understand trying to be a good person, but the requirement to say I believe things I believe to be untrue is beyond my understanding.
My reading of the Bible comes from my heart, not my mind. I have seen modern preachers lie, and I am suspicious of things in the Bible that look like rabble rousing. The Bible was written and assembled by men. I don't believe it is inerrant.
If you ask why I make the attempt to be honest and good, I have to say that's just the way I am. I don't see it as collecting green stamps to get into Heaven.
To: ml1954
It is merely a redundant modifier. What is the problem?
To: Heartlander
But mainly when I read the words of Jesus describing how to interact with others, I hear someone who thinks like I do. Better words, clearer thoughts than I have, but they seem to come from the same place I like to be.
To: js1138
I'm merely asking where you ‘believe’ your philosophical worldview ‘ultimately’ comes from? Is it mindlessness or intelligence?
To: Heartlander
So your question was basically....'where does your worldview come from?'
Why do you presuppose everyone must have a worldview?
2,411
posted on
03/02/2006 3:53:57 PM PST
by
ml1954
(NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
To: Heartlander
What part of "I don't understand the question" do you not understand? My brain doesn't work that way.
To: ml1954
What type of forum is this and why are you a member?
To: Heartlander
What type of forum is this and why are you a member?
Okay, what's the punchline?
2,414
posted on
03/02/2006 4:00:36 PM PST
by
ml1954
(NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
Another postmodernist brewing up here. When you run out of substance, attack motives, assume the worst.
To: js1138
Very nice post. Too bad certain people end up missing the forest for the trees.
To: jennyp
Aside from the esscatology implied by certain kinds of questions, I find it amusing that people think everything can be reduced to dichotomies.
The possibility that things are actually beyond our understanding never seems to occur to anyone except scientists who spend their lives trying to understand things.
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Start at the Beginning. (Please advance a Theory of Governance which does not recognize the Theory of Contract as Antecedent) Well, that's asking a bit much. My theory of Contract is that contracts freely entered into are presumptively valid, but where there is a gross disparity in power or in benefit, the beneficiary party bears the burden of demonstrating that the contract is valid.
2,418
posted on
03/02/2006 4:18:35 PM PST
by
jude24
("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
To: js1138
The possibility that things are actually beyond our understanding never seems to occur to anyone except scientists who spend their lives trying to understand things. When you believe you have The Truth Card®, you think you can trump any uncertainties or inconvenient facts.
2,419
posted on
03/02/2006 5:11:50 PM PST
by
balrog666
(Irrational beliefs inspire irrational acts.)
Another view on contracts:
A contract is a contract is a contract - but only between Ferengi.
(Ferengi rule of acquisition #17)
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