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Islam in midst of reformation
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF ^ | Sunday, February 12, 2006 | By Eileen Flynn

Posted on 02/12/2006 5:31:47 AM PST by Arrowhead1952

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To: Arrowhead1952
" Austin American-Statesman: Christians have seen some pretty ugly depictions of Jesus and the Virgin Mary. But you haven't seen this kind of violent reaction. Why the difference between Muslim and Christian responses? "

It's simple Christians and most of those who live in the judeo-christian world are civilized.

21 posted on 02/12/2006 7:09:27 AM PST by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: cripplecreek

Reformation in what sense? The Protestant Reformation was a demand by radical clericsd for a return to primative Christrianity. It, too, was marked by radical violence on the part of reformers and savage repression by authorities. This cycle continued for more than a hundred years. The Enlightenment was also a kind of reformation, but it too resulted in violent religious conflict. France was torn apart by war between Catholics and liberals. Marx, a product of this reformation defamed relgion and his followers viciously suppressed relgion in Russia and elsewhere. "Modernism" has resulted in toleration in some places but the opposite in others.


22 posted on 02/12/2006 7:12:21 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Kakaze

I think he has it right. We don't want to risk being seen as "intolerant." Therefore we suffer intolerance to preserve our comfort.


23 posted on 02/12/2006 7:16:15 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: cripplecreek

Extinction works for me.


24 posted on 02/12/2006 7:24:58 AM PST by beethovenfan
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" I think he has it right. We don't want to risk being seen as "intolerant." Therefore we suffer intolerance to preserve our comfort "

I think you've hit on a important facet of our national psyche.

For reasons I have never understood, I'm constantly amazed at how we have a national sense of inherent guilt. We seem to be ashamed of our success, instead of shouting from the rooftops that our way of life, morality & values are the REASON we work as a melting pot and have become THE SUPERPOWER on the planet.

Tolerance has been an asset of our nation, assimilation has been its true strength, in our current state of "over" tolerance and lack of assimilation we are diluting what once made us great.......borders, language and culture.

26 posted on 02/12/2006 9:10:05 AM PST by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: Arrowhead1952
He misses the point - our Reformation worked because it sought to restore original doctrinal intent.

An Islamic Reformation that restores original doctrinal intent is exactly what radical Islam is - a return to their basic beliefs.

Bin Laden IS an Islamic Reformation leader. Their Reformation is the problem, not the solution.
27 posted on 02/12/2006 9:30:07 AM PST by horse_doc
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I'd like to cast my vote for 'Extinction'.


28 posted on 02/12/2006 9:35:03 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Arrowhead1952

"The fact is, a Christian in suburban Indiana might be angry at the depiction of Jesus in (the film) "The Last Temptation of Christ," but he is not about to leave the comfort of his middle-class life to do anything about it. These spontaneous acts of violence and protest have primarily taken place in these places in which people are living lives in incredible economic depression and marginalization. It's not a Muslim-Christian thing. It's a Gaza-suburban Illinois thing. That kind of propaganda has enormous appeal for people who are living lives of utter desperation"

Nonsense the rioting takes place in the richest most comfortable nations on earth as well, Denmark, France, Britain etc.. As far as the rioting in Muslim countries, well that too is a long list of diverse countries, it's not as though these are ghettos of a few major cities in one country. The Muslim nations are the culmination of self government by the Islamic peoples, it seems revealing to describe that Muslim culture as in "utter desperation". The solution to Islam isn't extermination it is conversion to Christianity.


29 posted on 02/12/2006 10:45:38 AM PST by ansel12
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The other reason that the suburban Indiana analogy breaks down, is that we had a Virgin Mary made out of elephant dung in New York, and yet desperately-poor Christians in the slums of Buenos Airies, Manilla, and Mexico City didn't riot.

South America did not demand an apology, nor tell Manhattanites that they needed to censor the press.
30 posted on 02/12/2006 11:35:21 AM PST by horse_doc
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To: Arrowhead1952
Islam is incapable of reform because the problem is cultural, not religious.

The older Muslim generation can't stand to see their kids prefer American rather than Muslim traditions.

We have the same reaction when immigrants refuse to assimilate into the American mainstream.


BUMP

31 posted on 02/12/2006 3:47:13 PM PST by capitalist229
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