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The heart of worship
sacbee ^ | 2-11-06

Posted on 02/11/2006 2:10:39 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: LouAvul
...Through all of this, the gospel is lost. It's all about entertainment, not service...

It seems to be, pretty much. I'm so disgusted about the repetitive, "junk-food" praise dittys that I'm about to just show up when the preaching starts. My church has a "blended" style, so they say. One hymn max. Lots of "new" stuff that nobody knows.

21 posted on 02/11/2006 4:08:31 PM PST by sangoo
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To: LouAvul

Thanks for the post. I just read the book "Why I Left the Contemporary Christian Music Movement" by Dan Lucarini. For me, it raised as many questions as it answered. It doesn't go deeply into theological issues but he pointed out some quotes from the Purpose Driven Church that I thought were very revealing. For the record, I love singing from a hymnal (and I'm a young'un).


22 posted on 02/11/2006 4:13:24 PM PST by PioneerDrive (Advertisement)
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To: MineralMan; LouAvul
There are a number of problems with the "Glory and Praise", happy-clappy, semi-rock stuff.

First of all, many of the tunes are repetitive, boring, trite, written in the fashion of 15-20 years ago, and as a bonus too difficult for the congregation to sing.

Second, many of the words are repetitive, banal, and theologically unsound. The classic example is the stuff out of Oregon Catholic Press, which is "I-centered" instead of Christ-centered. You can just count the number of times one of these songs mentions "I", "me", and "mine" to get the idea.

Third, bad money drives out good, and bad music drives out good. If you let this stuff in, the good music (chant, Renaissance polyphony, solid English choral works) goes right out the window. Decent choir directors don't like it because it goes against all their musical training, and so they leave and some marginally-qualified would-be lounge singer comes in.

23 posted on 02/11/2006 4:15:10 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: nightdriver

"It could be that a whole lot of churches express no Christian message."

Very, very true. My wife and I were in a Methodist church years ago, that now openly supports homosexuals in leadership positions. Just unbelievable, Satan has totally had his way with those people.

I think that there are a lot of dead churches that do things because of tradition and inertia.
It's about transforming lives away from sin and to Christ. Anything else is wrong. The type of music doesn't matter, it's the message and the meaning in the music.

There are also to many churches that stay silent on openly sinful stuff, members supporting abortion, members being openly adulterous.


24 posted on 02/11/2006 5:11:42 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: daybreakcoming

I agree with you about the repitition of the contemporary
songs. My husband and I call them 7/11 songs. 7 lines sung 11+ times.Lol.

There's nothing wrong with them.
I just think the great old hymns
are so wonderful and meaningful.

I love your tagline.


25 posted on 02/11/2006 6:50:06 PM PST by duffi
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To: All

ping


26 posted on 02/11/2006 9:49:37 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

"I don't know, but it just seems weird for you to make that comment on this thread with the tagline, "godless atheist.""




Not really. I'm an old musician. I've played virtually every kind of music you can imagine, including sacred music. I have my own tastes in it.

That said, it seems to me that the music used in services is secondary to what is being taught there. Singing a 400-year-old hymn may be to some folks' taste, but not to others.


27 posted on 02/12/2006 6:37:39 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: AnAmericanMother
The infamous worship leader


28 posted on 02/12/2006 6:46:40 AM PST by Bear_Slayer
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To: Bear_Slayer
How'd you get a picture of our former music director?

< g >

Here's our current Dear Leader, along with a sample of the choir . ..

He looks a little like a mad scientist, but he IS a genius and has forgotten more about music than I will ever know. He does a bang-up job selecting music that is liturgically appropriate and also objectively "great". As an ex-Episcopalian I really appreciate his taste for Tallis, Byrd, Farrant, etc.

He also plays like an angel.

29 posted on 02/12/2006 11:38:40 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I'm trying to figure out which one looks lie AnAmericanMother. Which one is you?


30 posted on 02/12/2006 11:54:02 AM PST by Bear_Slayer
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To: Bear_Slayer
I'll never tell!

(I'm not the one with the beard, though. < g > )

31 posted on 02/12/2006 12:16:43 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: MineralMan
That said, it seems to me that the music used in services is secondary to what is being taught there. Singing a 400-year-old hymn may be to some folks' taste, but not to others.

I agree with that.

32 posted on 02/12/2006 2:15:50 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: AnAmericanMother
The picture is kinda grainy. Is this you? :-)


33 posted on 02/12/2006 3:08:08 PM PST by Bear_Slayer
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