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CA: Another Interview With Arnie Steinberg (Republican Strategist/Analyst)
FlashReport ^ | February 10, 2006 | Jon Fleischman

Posted on 02/10/2006 6:59:57 PM PST by calcowgirl

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To: FairOpinion
Oddly, the governor wants right-wing attacks, because he believes it makes him look more centrist.

Why are you so against the Gpvernor's plan?

41 posted on 02/10/2006 9:19:31 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: RonDog

Ahhh... but why did they lose? Did their party support them or stab them in the back?
It's hard to win when the Quarterback is playin' for the other team.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-steel011503.asp
Tom McClintock, the conservative state senator who was the nominee for controller, was also a victim of Parsky. McClintock, a popular conservative thinker and leader, led in all the polls and had the best chance of any Republican to win a statewide office. The RNC had sent Parsky $600,000 to help the down-ticket candidates. Even though McClintock was fighting for his life against a multimillionaire Democratic opponent who was pounding him on TV, Parsky passed him a paltry $100,000 and sent the remainder to moderate candidates with much-dimmer prospects of winning. It's worth noting that McClintock — easily the most-conservative member of the statewide ticket — received more votes than any other GOP statewide candidate, ultimately losing by only 22,000 votes out of almost 6.5 million cast.


42 posted on 02/10/2006 9:20:03 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion

Thanks, this continued delusional set of statements you and some others here utter endlessly only show that you have no love much less an interest in conservatism.

You are a pretender, much as your golden boy.

You bring nothing to the table when it comes to working to make California a better place , imo.

..and you do it at a forum that is conservative , not run as a LGBT forum, something which you never refute you are actually here supporting their agenda. for shame, FO, for shame. how wellstonian you have become, shrill like hill.. lol


43 posted on 02/10/2006 9:20:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Here are some questions for you:

The choice in November is Arnold or the Dem nominee.

Yes or NO?

If Arnold loses, who wins?

So if you want Arnold to lose, by default, whom are you helping to win?


44 posted on 02/10/2006 9:23:56 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: nickcarraway

"Oddly, the governor wants right-wing attacks, because he believes it makes him look more centrist.
Why are you so against the Gpvernor's plan?"


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Good point! :)


45 posted on 02/10/2006 9:24:50 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Amerigomag

That certainly sounds like a rational plan. He had a lot of press while at Colin Powell's side. I thought I'd read somewhere that Sundheim had resigned himself (and the party) to even trying to challenge Feinstein saying something like "he didn't want to waste the money."


46 posted on 02/10/2006 9:25:52 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion

Yes, then we would have Bustamante.

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without Tom, you likely wouldn't have had enough support to make question 1 of the Recall go Yes and pass,,

then we would have had neither the Gub or Cruz, and kept Gray.

somehow, I don't think we would have had the additional debt.. even Rats know when their nests burning and will either flee or pee on it themselves to put it out.

what would that have done to your New Majorityites dreams and scheme to win in a coup?


47 posted on 02/10/2006 9:26:41 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

What we would have had with Davis is massive tax increases.


48 posted on 02/10/2006 9:28:23 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

play your little games, that's all you have to offer isn't it?

that and more debt ,, more borrowing, more hype, more threats.. and more haranguing conservatives as being the culprits, how predictable and how smarmy,, but we have come to expect that from you.

you're like a broken record. so you are susan kennedy, is that it?

is that your little secret. you seem to approve of her, you embrace the LGBT agenda as your own, how special you are.


49 posted on 02/10/2006 9:29:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: calcowgirl
I took so much cr*p from some people here who were rabid Arnold fans and couldn't see the folly in it, I'm just chuckling now. Actually, chuckling through my tears. A totally squandered opportunity. When will some supposedly Conservatives start acting like it on a consistant basis? Get this, it's not important to just get a win for the frontrunner with an (R) behind his/her name. The job is to get a Conservative in ! Excuse the rant, but us long time 'go to hell' Conservatives have seen this happen too many times to be lectured in the heat of a campaign by a loud, few new to the movement 'pups'. (OK .... my bitchin', moanin', cryin' and complainin' mode is now off)

Nam Vet

50 posted on 02/10/2006 9:29:44 PM PST by Nam Vet (The Democrat Party of America is perfectly P.C. * .(* P.C. = Patriotically Challenged)
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To: FairOpinion

What we would have had with Davis is massive tax increases.
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Are you a fortuneteller, a seer too? LOL


you really should cut your losses, that is what conservatives are trying to do here, you know.


51 posted on 02/10/2006 9:31:08 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FairOpinion

What I don't understand is why if California has good GOP Strategists why is it they are doing nothing to mount a solid campaign against Feinstein and why they ran a weak candidate against Boxer. McClintock (IMHO) could run a solid campaign against Feinstein.


52 posted on 02/10/2006 9:33:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FairOpinion
So take a look in the mirror, if you want to see whom to blame for "the mess".

So... I am responsible for promoting liberal judges, borrowing, spending, stemcell research ...

Wow! I had no idea! I did vocally oppose all of those things.

Steinberg:

Seriously, the Democrats are capable of conspicuous irrelevance. It’s just that the governor has become the Republican Gray Davis – more spending, more government, more deficits, political opportunism, and their shared obsession with raising money, and unnecessary wheeling and dealing that doesn’t pass the smell test. Just sloppy, mess stuff with campaign loans, muscle magazine deals, campaign money on the side to state employees and so forth. It’s all gratuitous. Overall, this governor is a political masochist whose wounds are largely self-inflicted.

53 posted on 02/10/2006 9:35:23 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion
What we would have had with Davis is massive tax increases

And we haven't with the gang? Reinstating the VLF subsidy and then borrowing $15B to make up the shortfall and increasing spending with the rest. Raising total, per capita, tax burdens to the highest in the state's history. Raising the tax rate on those Californians attending the CCS, CSU and UC systems by over 30% in three years. Proposing another huge tax increase to subsidize an additional $68B in bonding.

Who's kidding whom. The Wilsonegger gang is today, out-taxing Davis by a long shot. The gang still holds the record for the single, largest, state, income tax, rate increase in US history.

54 posted on 02/10/2006 9:40:33 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"What I don't understand is why if California has good GOP Strategists why is it they are doing nothing to mount a solid campaign against Feinstein and why they ran a weak candidate against Boxer. McClintock (IMHO) could run a solid campaign against Feinstein."


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That's a very good question. The only answer that is consistent with their actions, is that CA conservatives do NOT really want to win, they want to have Democrats dominate CA, so they can cry in their beer and post whiny posts on internet boards. Every time some people in the CAGOP want to nominate a Republican who can actually beat some of the Dems they run against, the so-called conservatives torpedo it, nominate someone who has no chance against their Dem opponent in the election.

No Republican can win in CA without the support of independents, who break 2 to 1 for Dems, and some Dems, with only 35% Republicans in the state.


CALIFORNIA VOTER AND PARTY PROFILES

http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/JTF_VoterProfilesJTF.pdf


"The Democratic Party currently has an advantage of 1.4 million voters over the Republican Party (7.1 million to 5.7 million) or 9 percentage points (43% to 34%), according to the Secretary of State.

Among those most likely to vote in this year’s elections, Democrats outnumber Republicans by a 7-point margin (44% to 37%), while 15 percent of likely voters are registered as independents.

... the fact that independents are more likely to lean toward Democrats than Republicans (42% to 28%) tends to work to the disadvantage of the GOP in statewide elections."


55 posted on 02/10/2006 9:40:38 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Nam Vet; ModelBreaker
I hear ya! I did read some posts from you folks opposing the recall and they did make me think about it. I struggled with the voting choice but, at the time, didn't have your vision. Looking back, it's clear as mud.

I have never been part of the "win at all costs" crowd. More than once I posted "Winning with Arnold is not Winning for the state, the people, or the party." That part I had right.

56 posted on 02/10/2006 9:40:39 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion
That percentage of Dems to GOP is only going to grow as more and more California Conservatives continue to move out to Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, etc. We did (12 years ago) my uncle did last year, my sister is going next year when my BIL retires, and I understand my mother is planning to move, too. That is just one family, but we are all conservatives.

I hate to see California implode, but they are being run stupidly and it's bound to catch up sooner rather than later.

57 posted on 02/10/2006 9:47:42 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
It's not for lack of strategists that the GOP suffers. The party appears to be run by arrogant know-it-all amateurs that don't--and won't--listen. They fight to abandon conservative principles rather than try to sell them through informatative and educational campaigns. They don't listen to the people, instead dictating to those people what they should believe or who they should support.

How else can one explain the party's continuous push to support a big-spending, big-borrowing, land-grabbing, pro-gun control, pro-GLBT, pro-abortion, pro-minimum wage liberal who promotes subsidizing taxpayers for the likes of stem-cell research, hydrogen highways, solar roofs, and global warming?

58 posted on 02/10/2006 9:49:28 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion

That's a very good question. The only answer that is consistent with their actions, is that CA conservatives do NOT really want to win, they want to have Democrats dominate CA, so they can cry in their beer and post whiny posts on internet boards.

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Take your snotty little posts and hit the road.

You want to insult folks, go to DU. They are much more deserving of your diatribes than conservatives at FR, which you obviously are not one of with that latest idiotic set of remarks.


59 posted on 02/10/2006 10:02:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The Moderates or at least that's what they pose themselves at here at FR and in california in general are mostly to blame, they support abortion, banning guns, pushing a gay agenda , all the while blasting conservatives and others who don't go along with their leftist agenda.

They call it growing the party or going the Big Tent route and then bitch openly here to no end when they are asked to explain what is republican , much less conservative in going down that path. so , of course, when they are called on thier deception and devious ways, they blame it all on conservatives that donlt get with it. Go figure.

Try and get them to actually debate issues or refute facts as to what they are really all about and they skulk away.


60 posted on 02/10/2006 10:09:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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