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Dad Says His Son 'Damaged' by Homosexual Indoctrination at State-Sponsored Program
Agape Press ^ | 02.09.04 | Jim Brown

Posted on 02/09/2006 5:36:17 PM PST by Coleus

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To: Amelia; Penni
Every generation has a slightly different experience.

I think most folks would agree with that. Still, I don't think the examples you listed are exactly to what Penni was referring.

Of course I'm not trying to speak for Penni, but from the context of the thread and her post(s), I think she was referring specifically to the issue of homosexuality:

Today's youth can be easily confused about sexuality because homosexuality, bisexuality and the entire New Gay Teenager mentality is surrounding them.

Is that to what you were referring, Penni?

461 posted on 02/17/2006 7:50:22 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter; Amelia; thehumanlynx
Yes, that is what I meant.

As Amelia said, each generation has a slightly different experience as it depends on the culture of the time. What Amelia may not realize is that what each generation experiences affects that generation. And the current generation is getting bombarded with homosexuality.

thehumanlynx made some very good observations about desensitizing kids.
462 posted on 02/17/2006 4:40:55 PM PST by Penni
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Yes, the DOJ is infiltrated. As are a great many government agencies, private foundations, corporations etc.

If people who see the truth of the "gay" agenda don't fight it, it's going to get much worse before it gets better.

I want a button supporting marriage so I can wear it constantly. If anyone knows of such a thing, ping me?


463 posted on 02/17/2006 4:52:20 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Penni
What Amelia may not realize is that what each generation experiences affects that generation.

That's almost too obvious to state, is it not?

And the current generation is getting bombarded with homosexuality.

There's more openness about sexuality of all forms, but I haven't seen any evidence that the percentage of homosexuality in the population is rising - although the number of people practicing it openly may be, as are the number of heterosexuals who are living together without marriage and having one night stands, multiple sexual partners, or even illegitimate children without shame.

464 posted on 02/17/2006 5:01:30 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Why is this happening in the

"CONSERVATIVE" GEORGE W. BUSH G.O.P. ADMINISTRATION?

Inquiring minds want to know what the hell is going on at the top of the Republican Party, that they're now siccing the cops on conservatives?

465 posted on 02/17/2006 5:02:02 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Amelia
....as are the number of heterosexuals who are living together without marriage and having one night stands, multiple sexual partners, or even illegitimate children without shame.

Bob's scandal isn't Bill's defense. "They all do it" isn't an argument, it's the fallacy of argumentum ad populum, a.k.a. the "bandwagon" fallacy.

But you're a teacher, so you know that.

Question is, why are you perping a fallacy in defense of the indefensible?

You're looking more like a seminar troll every minute.

466 posted on 02/17/2006 5:06:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Penni; Amelia; thehumanlynx
And the current generation is getting bombarded with homosexuality.

Indeed, and thehumanlynx made that point over and over as a way the kid in the article could have been desensitized to the subject. Amelia, you should easily put two and two together here.

467 posted on 02/17/2006 5:10:22 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Amelia

I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. You say "that's almost too obvious to state" but you don't see how bombarding the current generation with homosexuality could help confuse children today? You must see this.


468 posted on 02/17/2006 5:24:35 PM PST by Penni
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; darkangel82
[Quoting your link]

Mission Statement

U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) Pride is the recognized organization for all Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered employees in all DOJ Offices, Boards, and Divisions; the BOP, DEA, FBI, USMS, INS, OJP, and USAO; and contractors in any of these components. The general purposes of DOJ Pride shall be:

to identify and address issues particularly affecting Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender employees of the Department;

to support the Department in the development and implementation of effective policies and practices for the elimination of discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in all Departmental activities; .....


So......

Who decided THIS?

469 posted on 02/17/2006 5:24:35 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Penni; Amelia
You must see this.....

She does.

470 posted on 02/17/2006 5:25:48 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: durasell
I can confidently say that straight teenaged boys don't question their sexuality.

Really? Does research corroborate that? I thought "questioning" meant "frail" or "confused" or any number of adjectives professionals have used to describe kids with these questions about their inchoate sexuality for generations now.

"Questioning" = "Gay" is a polemical assertion offered by gay advocates and seminar posters.

Maybe you could offer us a source or a link in support of this claim.

471 posted on 02/17/2006 5:43:59 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Kinda edited my statement didn't you. Now is that a nice thing to do?


472 posted on 02/17/2006 5:49:35 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Penni
You say "that's almost too obvious to state" but you don't see how bombarding the current generation with homosexuality could help confuse children today? You must see this.

The current generation is bombarded with sexuality, not just homosexuality.

No, I don't think that sexual orientation is changed that easily. I think that heterosexual children will notice the heterosexual sex that is so prevalent, and children who tend toward homosexuality will still tend toward it, but may tend to be more open about it at a younger age than was true previously.

I've noticed that heterosexual teens are much more open about their sexual activities than we were as teens (and indeed seem to be much more sexually active). I think this is partially because our culture is so sex-saturated, and partially because many of them have parents who are living with members of the opposite sex or have been married multiple times.

473 posted on 02/17/2006 6:40:03 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I read about this incident in the Eureka newspaper. I doubt if this is the only time such has happened. A lot of kids just shut up and swallow it.


474 posted on 02/17/2006 7:00:05 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: lentulusgracchus
Who decided THIS?

Leftovers from the Clinton anministation. The sodomites gained ground Under Attourny general Janet Reno.

From this link..

The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) coordinated a meeting today at the Department of Justice between gay organizations and Attorney General Janet Reno.

[SNIP]

The Attorney General seemed genuinely moved when we discussed the issue of hate crimes, and interested in using her office as a bully pulpit in condemning hate violence."

[SNIP]

Department of Justice Meeting Other Justice Department officials at the meeting were Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, Assistant Attorney General Eleanor Atchinson, Richard Roberts and Susan Liss of the Civil Rights Division, and Casey Cooper of the Office of Policy Development. Marsha Scott, Deputy Assistant to the President for Political Affairs, also participated in the meeting. In addition to NGLTF, other organizations participating in the meeting included the Human Rights Campaign Fund; Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund; the American Civil Liberties Union; the National Advocacy Coalition on Youth and Sexual Orientation; LLEGO -- the National Latino/a Lesbian and Gay Organization; Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund; Servicemembers Legal Defense Network; Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays; and People for the American Way.

You could spend days going through all the links from a "Reno LGBT" Google search.

Results 1 - 10 of about 36,900 for Janet Reno LGBT. (0.15 seconds)

475 posted on 02/17/2006 7:10:28 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

NOTE TO SELF... proofread and spell check when you post half asleep..


476 posted on 02/17/2006 7:13:41 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: durasell
I cited it and quoted the part I wanted to comment on. Yes, it's nice.

Problem?

477 posted on 02/17/2006 8:19:08 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Amelia
If the boy had mainly heterosexual feelings before and was only convinced he might be homosexual by this seminar, I'm sure that "deprogramming" him & reassuring him that he is not really gay would be helpful.

Better still would be:

If he has always had homosexual feelings but been afraid to admit them before now, I think the situation might be more difficult, and perhaps it would be cruel to try to persuade him that his feelings aren't valid and that he doesn't feel what he thinks he feels.

It was cruel to expose him to seducers. It is counseling to address his previously-undisclosed feelings and help him organize his sexuality so that he can function in society as an educated, mature adult.

478 posted on 02/17/2006 8:43:57 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
I should have known. Walked into that one.

Thanks for the information.

I expect that this will have been part of the Clintons' "diversity" initiatives that they undertook throughout the Civil Service, to politicize it and attach Clintonista cadre, dubbed "change agents," to staffs throughout the bureaucracy.

The Red Army had that sort of parallel organization under Stalin. The political officers were referred to as zampolit and were widely feared and hated. Your officers could court-marital you, but the zampolit could get you shot.

After Stalin, the political officers continued to serve in all commands, at a reduced level of noxiousness.

479 posted on 02/17/2006 8:50:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Amelia; Penni
The current generation is bombarded with sexuality, not just homosexuality.

How does this demurrer alter the truth of her statement? She was complaining about the growing gay presence in the Kulturschmog. Television is getting gayer and gayer -- now the quintessential American symbol, the cowboy, is being made to subserve gay agitprop.

Her comment addressed the gay message and its growing omnipresence. Penni's statement radiates parental concern. Yours, a teacher's, is flatly expository and does not display the same kind of concern.

Care to explain why you don't share Penni's concern for these students' psychological well-being in future, given the sexualization and coarsening of popular culture, and its progressive, aggressive, premeditated queering?

480 posted on 02/17/2006 9:01:11 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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