Posted on 02/09/2006 5:36:17 PM PST by Coleus
Even the shy guys -- when among guys -- were fascinated by the mysterious and complex workings of bras and the ever-present, grand and glorious dream of second base.
I had high school friends who "came out" several years after we graduated. They actually were quite popular & had girlfriends during their high school years.
The "very shy, pimply-faced introverts" that I knew eventually either grew into their ears and noses, came out of their shells, and married girls, or else remained shy & married shy pimply faced girls.
You may have had different experiences.
Really? You're sure they weren't just talking the talk just to be accepted? You don't think those shy guys - the followers - could have in any way been influenced by some understanding adult who comprehended their pain? The ones that never had a chance to practice unhooking the bra?
Out of curiosity - hold long ago since you were a teen?
...oh yeah, that was true for members of the A/V squad who had actually read and committed to memory the instruction manual for the ancient Bell & Howell 16 mm projectors as well as the hall monitors who bleached their white sashes weekly.
Out of curiosity - hold long ago since you were a teen?
I was a teen so long ago that unhooking a bra on an actual girl was a very big deal and nobody knew what they hell they were doing. I fear that age is long gone. More's the pity.
LOL! I rest my case. Seriously, though, it did say that he only came home questioning his sexuality, not that he was gay - I think it's entirely plausible this seminar could have triggered his confusion.
The reason I asked how long ago you were a teen was because I think you overlook the fact that things are much different now than back in the days...kids are bombarded with prohomosexual propaganda from every avenue in their lives it's tough these days for them to be so secure.
I don't know if times have changed that much. If memory serves, teen boys are giant hormones in sneakers.
Thank you for the information.
There is a lot to read on this thread
I was just reading somebody who said the kid didn't say he was gay and from some of the comments it seems he did say he was gay. I can't find any quotes from the kid or his parents where he said he was gay, just questioning his sexuality. That does change the situation.
Your camp 2 seems the most likely.
It does seem "well established and deliberate". Thank you for the information.
Thank you for the information.
There is a lot to read but I did not see where the kid was convinced during one seminar. What I read was that he was questioning his sexuality but maybe I missed something somewhere.
I think I read where this seminar was the only seminar that day.
It's hard to say. There is a lot of information in posts that do not match or align with the articles (there are two articles from what I can tell).
Did the kid say he was gay now?
According to the article:
"He [said he] was thinking now that he perhaps was gay -- and of course I was floored by this [pronouncement] and was, like, 'where did this come from?' This kind of came out of left field," the dad says. After questioning his son for an extended period, Burrows says he discovered the source. "I found out that this was as a result of this seminar."
Judging from that, I'd say that the father seems to think that the son now thinks he might be gay because of the one seminar.
That's interesting as I read the same thing. When I read "perhaps" and "I think" it doesn't imply the kid is gay. For me it says the seminar confused him, not that he is gay. I cannot infer the kid thinks he is gay from the article.
I would agree "a normal heterosexual teen" can't be easily influenced. From what thehumanlynx (and Scriptor, I think) pointed out was that it was probably something over time. What kids are exposed to today is not what I was exposed to. Nobody in my generation was exposed to what kids are exposed to today.
Too late. The USDOJ has been infiltrated by sodomites.
Source says homosexual government lawyers advised Philadelphia police at 'OutFest' event
U.S. attorneys complicit in arrest of Christians?
Excerpt:
Homosexual attorneys from the U.S. Justice Department Civil Rights Division not only attended a large homosexual event in Philadelphia last year, but they advised police on the scene who arrested 11 Christian protesters, says a source within the agency. According to the Justice Department employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, a number of agency attorneys from Washington, D.C., attended the October "OutFest" event, and, he says, they therefore are not likely to take up the cause of the five criminally charged Christians who believe Philadelphia officials violated their civil rights.
The legacy of Clinton Corruption lives on....
I see nothing wrong with tolerating homosexuality. However, promoting homosexuality is immoral.
Confusing teenagers is pretty much like shooting fish in a barrel.
I'm probably gonna get slammed as being ingnorant for saying such things, but don't think there is a huge difference between gay and straight people. I think it is much more about conformity and non-conformity.
Well, that's true. Every generation has a slightly different experience.
Many of those of my generation were told again and again that we'd never reach middle age because the world would be destroyed by pollution, nuclear war, and/or Armageddon first.
The generation before had to contend with the Great Depression and WWII. There's always something.
I don't think there is a huge difference myself. From what I've read from science and ex-gays, gays are just confused about their sexuality.
I was wondering what you meant when you said conformity and non-conformity. I may be inferring incorrectly... are you saying homosexuality (or some of it) is a form of rebellion? I used the word rebellion to imply non-conformity.
The bleeding-heart PC view + the Great American 15 second attention span = lack of focus and caring to fight this type of crap.
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