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First duty is to yourself (No duty to retreat)
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW ^
| February 5, 2006
| Dimitri Vassilaros
Posted on 02/06/2006 11:35:25 AM PST by neverdem
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:35:26 AM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
Louisiana has never had a duty to retreat. The assailant doesn't even need to be all the way in your house. Or facing you. Or armed.
Besides, juries love it when home intruders get shot.
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:39:27 AM PST
by
Gordongekko909
(I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
To: neverdem
A duty to retreat? Such laws are morally wrong and serve to encourage criminals to comit more crimes. Why is it that in some states the legislators seem to want to make it easier for the criminals and harder on the victims?
Such laws should-be ignored. A person's first duty is to protect his life and the life of others. His second duty is to protect his possessions. This third duty is to go to the pistol range at least once in a while so that he can exercise perfect gun control.
To: neverdem
I like Pennsylvania - a few years ago a burglar broke into a house in upper Bucks County. The homeowner not only used a gun to chase him out of the house, he then went outside and shot him. The local DA did not press charges.
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:46:46 AM PST
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
To: neverdem
Retreating is what I'll be doing when I go into the kitchen to grab 2 fingers of single malt to calm my nerves after I've shot (until he/she quits moving) an intruder found on the inside of my abode.
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:50:42 AM PST
by
tx_eggman
(Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
To: neverdem; sure_fine
We've got a real Conservative DA here in York County, who has never indicted a home defender, that I can remember.
There was an incident here a few years ago, where a guy ith a tire iron had smashed a motorist's car window, and was bashing him with it. He was shot 3 times, and the shooter was never indicted.
I answer my front door with my 1911A1 .45cal, concealed behind the door, after all the home invasions we're had in the Lancaster and York areas, in the past 2 years. Just to be safe.
Better to be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
To: neverdem
Does anyone know what states have "duty to retreat" statutes?
I would like to know which states to avoid.
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:51:59 AM PST
by
Beckwith
(The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
To: neverdem; sure_fine
We've got a real Conservative DA here in York County, who has never indicted a home defender, that I can remember.
There was an incident here a few years ago, where a guy ith a tire iron had smashed a motorist's car window, and was bashing him with it. He was shot 3 times, and the shooter was never indicted.
I answer my front door with my 1911A1 .45cal, concealed behind the door, after all the home invasions we're had in the Lancaster and York areas, in the past 2 years. Just to be safe.
Better to be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
To: butternut_squash_bisque
Whoops, sorry for the double post.
To: butternut_squash_bisque
just in case anyone misses it
Better to be tried by 12, than carried by 6
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:55:18 AM PST
by
sure_fine
(*not one to over kill the thought process*)
To: neverdem
And the gun-control lobby insisted that the law in Florida would make Disney World look like the O.K. Corral.
Didn't happen.
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:56:05 AM PST
by
Lunatic Fringe
(North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
To: Beckwith
Try www.packing.org and enter your state from the pull-down menu, at top left.
To: tx_eggman
"Retreating is what I'll be doing when I go into the kitchen to grab 2 fingers of single malt to calm my nerves after I've shot (until he/she quits moving) an intruder found on the inside of my abode."
Thats right, rest up with a little booze to take the "edge off". You gotta long night ahead of you: gutting, sawing, digging, filling back in the dirt. Then you gotta clean the house and get ready for work the next morning.
No need to involve the cops ... they have enough to worry about.
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:58:33 AM PST
by
MaDeuce
(Do it to them, before they do it to you!)
To: Gordongekko909
Texas Penal Code
CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
Subchapter B
§ 9.21.
(c) The use of deadly force is not justified under this section unless the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is specifically required by statute or unless it occurs in the lawful conduct of war. If deadly force is so justified, there is no duty to retreat before using it.
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posted on
02/06/2006 11:58:52 AM PST
by
Lunatic Fringe
(North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
To: neverdem
I'll take my chances with a jury over a thug criminal every time.
Self defense ends recidivism every time.
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posted on
02/06/2006 12:03:06 PM PST
by
AbeKrieger
(Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
To: Lunatic Fringe
is not justified under this section unless the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is specifically required by statute or unless it occurs in the lawful conduct of war. If deadly force is so justified, there is no duty to retreat before using it. Works for me ... I've never seen a case in this wonderful state where the shooting of a burglar wasn't no-billed.
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posted on
02/06/2006 12:07:46 PM PST
by
tx_eggman
(Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
To: neverdem
Not in Texas!! However, if given the opportunity I will retreat and wait in the dark outside my house for the bad guy. He will not leave alive.
This is Texas, it is legal, get used to it.>
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posted on
02/06/2006 12:11:22 PM PST
by
cpdiii
(roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
To: tx_eggman
Seems to me a homeowner in Iowa was charged for shooting an intruder during a breakin. This was several years ago, I think. I don't remember the outcome.
Can anyone confirm this? I can't so far.
To: neverdem
Sounds like it might be an easy one to beat. Just kill the perp, drag the body into a back room, trash the place a little to make it look like you were running around trying to "retreat" to your redoubt (Panic Room?). I guess you'd have to be careful not to leave any blood trails...
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posted on
02/06/2006 12:16:55 PM PST
by
chimera
To: Lunatic Fringe; Squantos; El Gato; archy; Eaker; Shooter 2.5
Texas Penal Code CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
Subchapter B
§ 9.21.
(c) The use of deadly force is not justified under this section unless the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is specifically required by statute or unless it occurs in the lawful conduct of war. If deadly force is so justified, there is no duty to retreat before using it.
Inquiring minds wanted to know!
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posted on
02/06/2006 12:17:33 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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