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Cover-ups of Mexican military border crossings anger agents [Where's W?]
http://dailybulletin.com/news/ci_3437738 ^

Posted on 02/06/2006 9:01:41 AM PST by bikepacker67

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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

You answered my question. But I still don't understand the "logic".


41 posted on 02/06/2006 11:38:38 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

My logic?


42 posted on 02/06/2006 11:41:33 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( You'll love Laffey! http://www.electlaffey.com Chafeehas2go)
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To: Tammy8
There is still this pretense that Mexican officials are in charge and we can negotiate with them and support them to make things better in Mexico

It is pretty difficult to talk to a government that is rife with corruption, and one that helps the business that makes the most money(drugtrade, illegals moving across the border). What else does Mexico export to the U.S.?
43 posted on 02/06/2006 11:44:08 AM PST by edgrimly78
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

No. The logic of the two parties.


44 posted on 02/06/2006 11:56:59 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

I have to guess it's power.
And not having to be accountable for their actions.

I never understood the thirst for power over others, so it mystifies me.

To me, having power over others just makes you a babysitter for all the annoying brats.

Read some of their dreck.

http://www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=8138

I've read it all. I think they're nuts.


45 posted on 02/06/2006 12:03:32 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( You'll love Laffey! http://www.electlaffey.com Chafeehas2go)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

I'll check it out and thanks.


46 posted on 02/06/2006 12:05:40 PM PST by sarasota
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To: edgrimly78

The government in Mexico has always been corrupt, and our government has usually tried to pretend they weren't and dealt with them on that assumption. (Why, I do not know)

The officials used to be bought off, now I think they no longer have any power, no need to buy them off. Drug lords are in control now, and each has their own area. There are drug wars all over Mexico to determine who will control each area. I don't think the Mexican gov't has to help illegal traffic any longer- I don't think the smugglers need the help any more. That is why I have come to the conclusion Mexico is the new Columbia. There are mass desertions from their Military, and LE. The deserters are joining up with the Mexican "mafia" gangs and drug lords. Military and LE over there has always gone to the highest bidder but now they are not even pretending to be honest.

To answer your other question about what they export to the US other than illegals and drugs; the answer is oil, and many products made by former American companies who moved south of the border. Vegetables are imported also, and of course a variety of tourist related items. As far as I am concerned, they need us worse than we need them, no matter what they export.


47 posted on 02/06/2006 12:08:19 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: sarasota

There's piles of docs on the subject if you need more.

They are certainly not concerned with anyone seeing the plan.


48 posted on 02/06/2006 12:11:15 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( You'll love Laffey! http://www.electlaffey.com Chafeehas2go)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

I had no idea this plan was being hatched--and for many years. Color me enlightened.


49 posted on 02/06/2006 12:13:59 PM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

Actually, start here. Phyllis has a nice easy summary with links.

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html


50 posted on 02/06/2006 12:17:02 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( You'll love Laffey! http://www.electlaffey.com Chafeehas2go)
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To: Tammy8

Please see the link in post 50, if you have not already seen it.

If it's news to you, it will unsettle you a bit.


51 posted on 02/06/2006 12:18:23 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( You'll love Laffey! http://www.electlaffey.com Chafeehas2go)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

It's not really news to me, I have 2 things to say about that (at least for now LOL) First, it ain't over until the fat lady sings. If enough people stand up against this idea, it will never happen. Second, the only way the Gov't will get any support from me for an open border with Mexico is if we completely take over Mexico, execute all those in power now and start over with it as a new territory to become new states when we are finished. Only when that is totally accomplished will I entertain the idea of opening this border.

I know that makes me sound radical and even racist to some, but I am not. The majority of the Mexican people are good, honest, hard working people who want the same thing out of life that we do. Their government was set up to fail from the beginning, and now has failed. Mexico has a ton of natural resources and there is no reason it couldn't have been and now become a wonderful country if the system (or lack of) was demolished and rebuilt from the ground up.


52 posted on 02/06/2006 12:47:30 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Tammy8

...If enough people stand up against this idea, it will never happen....

Been beating the bushes for a while, few listen.

...Second, the only way the Gov't will get any support from me...

That's the plan, to eliminate the need for your vote/support and make you just a taxcow.


53 posted on 02/06/2006 1:00:33 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( You'll love Laffey! http://www.electlaffey.com Chafeehas2go)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

More people are starting to listen, if we fight for a major fence/wall/barrier it is the first step. I can promise once it is in place, the resulting events in Mexico will convince Americans that we don't want to be a part of that chaos.

If we don't get the fence, all bets are off and this crazy scheme of open borders will happen.


54 posted on 02/06/2006 1:13:50 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: sarasota

That is scary. We need a wall now.


55 posted on 02/06/2006 1:20:23 PM PST by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

My daughter, 31, was stunned. She considers herself "on top of things" and this was news to her. We need to build on our own momentum by spreading the word.


56 posted on 02/07/2006 5:39:28 AM PST by sarasota
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To: bikepacker67

BTTT


57 posted on 02/07/2006 5:43:39 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: sarasota

Good Luck.


58 posted on 02/07/2006 5:59:18 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ( You'll love Laffey! http://www.electlaffey.com Chafeehas2go)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

My daughter is convinced this is just a conspiracy theory. Just sent her the link to their site (prior link was Phyllis). Think she'll still say that "this will never happen", aka liberal thinking.


59 posted on 02/07/2006 6:28:46 AM PST by sarasota
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Or at the ranch with v fox eating tacos and planning the next shipment...


60 posted on 02/07/2006 6:39:59 AM PST by ChefKeith (Flies,fleas,ants,ticks,cockroaches,bad cops,lawyers,judges & politicians All the same. Useless!!!)
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