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Origins Of The Ainu
Nova/PBS ^ | 2-2-2006 | Gary Crawford

Posted on 02/02/2006 4:16:59 PM PST by blam

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To: blam
Maybe relatives of the Ainu?

Vintage Skulls

21 posted on 02/02/2006 5:08:43 PM PST by blam
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To: truth_seeker
Penon Woman

Found In Mexico

"The extreme age (13,000 YO) of Peñon woman suggests two scenarios. Either there was a much earlier migration of Caucasian-like people with long, narrow skulls across the Bering Strait and that these people were later replaced by a subsequent migration of Mongoloid people. Alternatively, and more controversially, a group of Stone Age people from Europe made the perilous sea journey across the Atlantic Ocean many thousands of years before Columbus or the Vikings."

22 posted on 02/02/2006 5:15:41 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The Jomon were noted for their 'cord-marked' type pottery. Archaeologists believe they have found this type pottery in the Olmec ruins in Mexico.

And they were a fishing people. It would not be far-fetched to think that some would migrate up the Aleutian Island chain to Alaska and then down the Pacific coast of America

23 posted on 02/02/2006 5:37:38 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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That makes sense to me.


24 posted on 02/02/2006 6:07:58 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: blam

Ainu have a lot pf blue eyes but not nearly as many as North Europeans


25 posted on 02/02/2006 6:31:53 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: SauronOfMordor

can you say ice bridge?


26 posted on 02/02/2006 6:32:31 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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"Ainu have a lot of blue eyes but not nearly as many as North Europeans."

That's the first I've ever heard of that.

27 posted on 02/02/2006 6:41:27 PM PST by blam
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http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-49%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=Ainu++blue+eyes&btnG=Search


28 posted on 02/02/2006 6:44:46 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: dennisw
Okay, I have it here:

The Ainu

"The Ainu look like Caucasian people, they have white skin, their hair is wavy and thick, their heads are mesocephalic (round) and a few have grey or blue eyes. However, their blood types are more like the Mongolian people, possibly through many millennia of intermixing."

29 posted on 02/02/2006 6:49:48 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

The Ainu may not be Caucasian, strictly speaking, but having met several during the time I lived in Japan, I WILL say they sure LOOK Caucasian to me!


30 posted on 02/02/2006 7:03:44 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: muawiyah

Over here.


31 posted on 02/02/2006 7:11:02 PM PST by blam
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All East Asians (Chinese and Ainu) arise out of the same stock of humans as do the Europeans.

That stock split in two ~ with the Europeans going one way, and the East Asians going the other. The East Asian group branched into two groups, Ainu and Chinese.

Every now and then you'll find a Chinese who has many of the same "Caucasion" features carried by the Ainu. For example, Chou En-Lai could "pass".

You also find traits of blondism among the Koreans. This readily explains the origins of their Uralic-Altaic language.

32 posted on 02/02/2006 7:22:49 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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33 posted on 02/02/2006 9:45:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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The Lost Civilizations of the Stone Age The Lost Civilizations
of the Stone Age

by Richard Rudgley
"The first discovery of a Palaeolithic site in Japan took place just after World War II. Until this time so strong was the belief amongst archaeologists that there was no Palaeolithic at all in Japan that excavators of Jomon sites would stop digging once they had reached the bottom... simply because the discovery of earlier artefacts was seen as totally impossible... In 1980 artefacts from a number of sites... were reliably dated... Those from Zazaragi were dated to 130,000 BP although sceptics maintained that they were perhaps no older than 50,000 years... It must be said that the idea of Homo Erectus being the first American is, to almost all archaeologists, absolutely out of the question... According to Simpson and her team, a number of distinct types of artefacts, including hand-axes, hammerstones, and scrapers, were found at Calico, and their forms could not be the result of natural forces but can be nothing else [than] the tool kits of 200,000 year old occupants of California. They also claim that these artefacts are of a comparable technological level to those found at Lower Palaeolithic sites in China, and see the lack of acceptance of their finds as indicating a psychological barrier on the part of most archaeologists in accepting new and controversial data that does not fit neatly into preconceived notions of the antiquity of humans in the Americas." [pp 247-260]


34 posted on 02/02/2006 9:48:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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35 posted on 02/03/2006 3:13:47 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: blam

Bump for later study.


36 posted on 02/03/2006 5:42:11 AM PST by Dustbunny (May God be gracious to us and Bless us and make his face shine upon us Ps67:1 Selah)
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To: blam

I always thought Ainus were Caucasian because of their appearance. Ainus today look more Mongoloid because of racial mixing likely. I always noticed Ainu men carrying swords. Any reason for that? That sword looks similar to a Samurai sword. In fact the way Samurais are depicted, they look like Ainus or mixed race. Toyotomi Hideyoshi, the Japanese leader who invaded Korea in the 16th was likely an Ainu. I know many Japanese leaders, politicians, generals, and samurais were Ainus. I believe that Ainus came from Southeast Asia, mainly Indonesia. I have read that Ainus, Veddas, Bataks, Polynesians, Australian Aborgines, and Indians are all related to each other and came from Indonesia.


37 posted on 02/03/2006 9:14:12 AM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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Sometimes Koreans are born with blonde hair. I know some Koreans have blonde hair. I know Korean is related to Turkish, Japanese, Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian, hence Altaic-Uralic. I have heard Turkish spoken before, it does sound Korean. Many Koreans pick up Hungarian quickly because of grammar and wording. Finns have one of the highest rate of blondes in the world. I notice actresses Mena Suvari (Estonian), Tara Reid (part Hungarian), and Pamela Anderson Lee (Finnish) look kinda Asiatic to me.


38 posted on 02/03/2006 9:18:46 AM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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By the time you've moved all the way West to Finland, the folks with that slight Asiatic appearance are probably Sa'ami, or have some Sa'ami ancestors.

The Sa'ami, though, are not East Asian people. Rather, they seem to be nothing other than the original Europeans, highly evolved since their separation from the warmth-seeking Southern types, but totally European ~

39 posted on 02/03/2006 10:51:59 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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"I always noticed Ainu men carrying swords. Any reason for that? That sword looks similar to a Samurai sword. In fact the way Samurais are depicted, they look like Ainus or mixed race. "

Read the link in my post #5.

40 posted on 02/03/2006 11:36:10 AM PST by blam
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