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Why the .45 Matters
Strategy Page ^ | Feb 1, 2006

Posted on 02/01/2006 3:42:08 PM PST by John Jorsett

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To: CodeToad

Is Beretta an American-owned company?


181 posted on 02/02/2006 9:35:52 AM PST by DeaconNoGood
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To: Lady Jag
....and always arms according to the enemy's technique's.

Excellent. I've never heard this before, but certainly is the most logical practice.

182 posted on 02/02/2006 9:41:36 AM PST by DeaconNoGood
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To: DeaconNoGood

Well, I think you will find a problem with most military manufacturers not being pure American owned.


183 posted on 02/02/2006 9:46:08 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: dinok

If a Soldier / Soldierette is too feminine, effeminate, petite or sensitive to competently use the M-1911-A1, then keep 'em in the Mess Hall or the HQ behind a keyboard, and leave the fighting up to the Warriors.

Or hunker in the bunker and hope the meanies don't find ya.

Offended?

War is offensive; get used to it.


184 posted on 02/02/2006 10:08:16 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: DeaconNoGood
Re: "I've really enjoyed using my .45-70 single shot..."

Here's my Great Uncle "Freddy" with his Model 1873 Springfield:



In one of my Pappy's old gun books (circa 1948), the writer opines that "The .45-70 was a fine cartridge in it's day... and it's day is far from over.".

One of my favorites.

BTW; One of my favorite personal "Good luck charms":



Systema 27; "Sen'ior Quattra Sanque"; M-1911A1 with a Spanish accent. (Argentine).
185 posted on 02/02/2006 10:21:17 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: Xenophobic Alien

A 9mm goes "Powpowpowpowpowpowpow..."

A .45 says "BOOM-a-Whackka!; BOOM-a-Whakkaa!..."

Veterans of the Wermacht have related as to how if they could get their hands on a captured GI .45, their Luger or P-38 quickly went into the bushes and it was replaced with a real battle pistol.

The 9mm works well for murdering Jews at point blank range, but they quickly found that it was a sorry excuse for a fighting gun in a real firefight with men who had the audacity to fight back.


186 posted on 02/02/2006 10:29:07 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: Disambiguator

I rather fancy the arched mainspring housing of the A1 myself - but from what I've heard that Kimber is a fine piece, and if the user knows what they are about, it'll git 'er done!


187 posted on 02/02/2006 10:30:54 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: calex59

I'm a big fan of the .44 Special too, as was the late great Elmer Keith, who based the .44 Magnum on it.

Would love to have an M-1873 SAA in .44 Spl, but they are hard to come by and out of my budget new.

In the Phillipine Moro insurrection, the troops begged for the old Single-action .45 "hoglegs" to be sent over to replace the innefectual M-1901 .38 Colt revolver - much as our Finest in Iraq are now yearning for "Old Slabsides" to make an encore.

Apparantly, the US .45ACP was designed to replicate the "stopping power" of the .45 Long Colt in an auto-loading platform, and Browning essentially designed the 1911 around it.

The rest, as they say, is History.


188 posted on 02/02/2006 10:41:32 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: cbkaty; Eaker; XeniaSt; ASA Vet; ExSoldier; Disambiguator

I should be more specific.

I have a g23 and g23c (compensated).

It was the g23 that I was comparing to the .45.

I shoot w/ both hands don't know the tech name for my stance feet are shoulder lenth apart knees and elbows slightly bent.

Can put three in the ten ring from 7yds.


189 posted on 02/02/2006 11:59:32 AM PST by Scribbz (Navy brat and proud!)
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To: Xenophobic Alien

the 1911 are "combat" weapons, they have a higher rate of fire and are more accurate (in the right hands and properly tuned) than double action automatics like Glocks, S&W etc. try squeezing off rounds at the range next time you have two different frames available the DA guns are more likely to pull and are slower than 1911's... it is no accident that handgunning competitors use 1911's they are the fastest and best...


190 posted on 02/02/2006 12:14:04 PM PST by databoss
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To: Uncle Jaque

cocked and locked (I hope)...the safety pin is a nice touch...


191 posted on 02/02/2006 12:19:21 PM PST by databoss
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To: Gordongekko909

Possibly Eldorado..


192 posted on 02/02/2006 12:22:05 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: al baby

"Stacked and packed"


193 posted on 02/02/2006 12:22:41 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Scribbz
I was just curious as to why it kicked so much.

Mine has a recoil, but rapid fire I can keep it flat.


Watch the last 8 or so rounds.

194 posted on 02/02/2006 12:27:10 PM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
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To: Eaker

When you play that video in widescreen mode you can really see the neighbor's dog runnin'! Couldn't ya' hit him once? :)


195 posted on 02/02/2006 12:32:02 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL!!!!

Not even with 29 rounds!!


196 posted on 02/02/2006 12:37:13 PM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
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To: Lady Jag
Smartest thing the military could do is be flexible...

That's good advice for just about anyone.

197 posted on 02/02/2006 12:55:52 PM PST by papertyger (Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be broken :o)
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To: papertyger
That's good advice for just about anyone.

I know it's a terribly general statement and seems mindless at first glance, but the govt. is inflexible and that is why it took so long to get the right sidearms for the job.

IMHO, the 9 was always a bad choice. Now that 45s have become so compact and lightweight, they are a better sidearm than ever.

198 posted on 02/02/2006 1:01:42 PM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and world domination)
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To: mad_as_he$$

"...a 357 with a medium load and reversed wad cutters. "

Some might not appreciate the fact that "wadcutters" are swaged from soft lead, and have a large, cavitated "hollow" base. At close range they are indeed devistating.

The ACLU would consider them "Cruel and unusual punishment", I'm sure.

I've heard of some blokes inserting a .22 nail driving blank into the cavity, so that it would detonate on impact.

Don't know how legal that is, but sounds like fun.


199 posted on 02/02/2006 1:29:52 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: al baby

Re your #86:

Those big drum magazines must jiggle a bit when firing full auto, don't they?

{8^{)~

(Got any *.MPEGS?)


200 posted on 02/02/2006 1:43:35 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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