Posted on 02/01/2006 12:04:11 PM PST by Icelander
Do you have a plan? Cuz what we've been doing sure isn't working....
"I guess you missed the part about "bringing the illegals in out of the shadows"."
I guess I did.
My post was quoted from his speech.
Here's the transcript.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1569147/posts
"Cut off their taxpayer freebees, (heavily) fine employers who hire them, and end the anchor baby incentive. ......and then watch them self-deport."
None of which will be done under the Bush Administration.
Unfortunately not.
You specifically said "picking tomatos". This machine does that. It's legal, does not require social services, and it creates jobs. There are other machines that perform the tasks you have added.
Typical leftist tactic. Try to focus on a minor point of the argument to avoid having to answer the main point. Or cry racism. You're not getting away with it. I'll repeat my characterization of what you illegal labor slavers do:
"Hiring illegals any other way is fraud, illegal labor practices, and tax cheating. Period, end of. Spin that, pennies."
A lot of people, including the president, have put forth plans or ideas; they all get shot down
I call for a FREAKIN' WALL FIRST!
Then, if the labor market tightens too much, start a guest worker program.
See my post #108
Ah, but that's the point isn't it. Utilizing Illegal labor shifts the real costs to the taxpayers. Some assume they are paying less for the item or service when in fact they are not.
Funny how when the guest worker issue comes up people jump to agricultural labor. The guest worker program will apply to every job sector.
Well....do you (or anyone else!) have any idea how WE can help then?? Writing letters and making phone calls have fallen on deaf ears.
Because (among other things) it's mighty annoying out here among the border states. Mighty. I wouldn't wish what's happening here on my worst enemy.
We can call it, "Compassionate Immigration."
Very high chance of your prediction happening. Damn close to 100%. Bush calling Clinton his "brother" instead of reminding the American public he is a disgraced, impeached, lying felon does not help matters.
I question the greymatter of George Bush. Or, at least, I question his belief in the pro-American, conservative, Founding Fathers, "right from wrong" beliefs in that he is in fact handing the presidency to Scumbagette (an anti-American, anti-traditional American values, anti-Founding Fathers RAT bitch) on a silver platter, as you predicted.
I think the Border Issue may become Bush's al-Queda. What I mean is Clinton refused to accept al-Q's throwing down the gauntlet, declaring war and attacking us repeatedly, so Bush inherited 9-11. If we don't get whacked across the border before Bush gets out, the terror and lawlessness that exists there right now may spread and turn into an even bigger problem than al-Q.
Up until 9/11 they did not even track who left.
Now they do.
It is very easy to just coordinate the computer database of the BCIS to generate a letter to the employer upon the "terminate date". The terminate date will give the "guest" 30 days to leave the country (ala the current bag and baggage order of the immigration courts). If a departure is not recorded the employer is sent a letter which requires them to swear UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY PERSONALLY AND CORPORATE PENALTY the employee has left.
IF (very big IF) they think this out is can be REASONABLE. Those that remain automatically have a felony warrent put out for them and an immiration hold.
I haven't seen him or dane yet. IIRC, they have similar opinions on the subject.
Why?
Because they know it would work, and they want to keep that dirt cheap illegal alien labor coming.
I posted to myself. DOH!
May I direct you to post #130.
It almost sounds like Bush is thinking about the old Bracero Program that President Kennedy killed in 1963.
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