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Bush grants valley's wishes - $136 Billion initiative to boost science, math
Mercury News ^ | 2/1/06 | Jim Puzzanghera

Posted on 02/01/2006 9:34:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 02/01/2006 9:34:27 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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But how do you get students really interested in math and science?


2 posted on 02/01/2006 9:36:35 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: NormsRevenge

Everytime Bush opens his mouth he spends my money. Price theory will guarantee that we have enough math and science majors and/or investment, not central planners.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 9:36:59 AM PST by Jibaholic (We wouldn't let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? -- Josef Stalin)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Math is hard"- Barbie


4 posted on 02/01/2006 9:37:40 AM PST by socal_parrot (2006, the year of the parrot!!!)
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"But how do you get students really interested in math and science?"

That is precisely the problem. Kids are more interested in drugs, clothes, sex, American idol, baseball, football, video games, etc. Who cares about science and mathematics? Throwing money at it will only encourage more 'foreigners" to come here, get education, get experience, and go back to India and China.


5 posted on 02/01/2006 9:39:17 AM PST by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: NormsRevenge

Does anyone here think that this money, apart from a total overhaul of the public school system, will solve our competitiveness problem with China in the next ten years.


6 posted on 02/01/2006 9:39:38 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: NormsRevenge
Actually if he wants to spend some tax payers money...how about on the wounded soldiers the Army takes punitive action against...

Wounded Soldiers Told They Owe Money To Army

7 posted on 02/01/2006 9:41:22 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Federal dollars.. Go forth and multiply.


AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais

President Bush delivers the State of the Union to a joint session of Congress while Vice President Dick Cheney, left, and House Speaker Dennis Hastert, right, watch at the U.S. Capitol, Tuesday, in Washington


8 posted on 02/01/2006 9:41:34 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is why I agree with Tony Snow, that the SOTU speech was a 'C'.


9 posted on 02/01/2006 9:42:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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Does anyone here think that this money, apart from a total overhaul of the public school system, will solve our competitiveness problem with China in the next ten years.

No.

I just KNEW when the President spoke last night of all the wonderful 'initiatives' and such, what he was REALLY saying was: "We'll spend more of the taxpayer's money on....."

10 posted on 02/01/2006 9:43:22 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a ~legal entity~, nor am I a *person* as created by law!)
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To: NormsRevenge; Reagan Man
President Calls For Spending Restraint
11 posted on 02/01/2006 9:43:36 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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To: mlc9852; razoroccam

Especially considering that public schools- including public universities- spend an inordinate amount of time in sensitivity training, esteem building, and celebrating diversity.

Maybe we'll need to send kids to school year-round, in order to allow time to actually learn something important?


12 posted on 02/01/2006 9:43:56 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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Especially considering that public schools- including public universities- spend an inordinate amount of time in sensitivity training, esteem building, and celebrating diversity.

And building huge football stadiums.

13 posted on 02/01/2006 9:47:43 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It's all about entitlement programs and long overdue reforms across the board.

The left helped install and prop these pigs up for years.


While they may have provided much relief to many in need over the years , we are at the point where there are better ways to deal with the issues at hand and we must pursue solutions or pay even more dearly down the road financially and societally.

It seems that Everett Dirksen said it best.. a few dollars here , a few more dollars there and before ya know it, you're talking about some serious money.

The 'pass the major issues of our time onto future generations' attitude must and can be changed but only if rational folks are involved in those changes and implementing them.

Sadly, there are not enough of them in Congress today that agree, imo..


14 posted on 02/01/2006 9:54:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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But how do you get students really interested in math and science?

Great question; right on target.

In the 60s we had the space program to interest kids in math, science and engineering. Clinton killed off what could have been the next significant factor in math, science and engineering education - the Super-Conducting Super Collider.

With no end game such as the space program or the SCSC to attract graduates from math, science or engineering programs, all Bush is doing is pre-loading the universities to produce McDonalds management trainees because the jobs that might utilize these graduates are being shipped to India and China.
15 posted on 02/01/2006 10:06:54 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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"High-tech leaders praised the proposal Tuesday night."

I'm sure they did. Now, if we can get them to stop sending tech jobs to India and other countries, there might be some work for all these kids.


16 posted on 02/01/2006 10:13:15 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: razoroccam

Nope, they won't go back to India or China, they'll figure out a way to stay here and make the big bucks. Plus, they will have plenty of cheap labor to detail their cars and clean their bathrooms in the form of the kids who were more interested in drugs, clothes, sex, etc.


17 posted on 02/01/2006 10:14:00 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Gefreiter

Well, we need to do something because what we're doing now apparently isn't working. Does anyone know the percentage of college degrees awarded in the math and science areas? Maybe we just need to allow more Asians into the US. They seem to excel at math and science.


18 posted on 02/01/2006 10:19:13 AM PST by mlc9852
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I fear you are right.


19 posted on 02/01/2006 10:19:51 AM PST by mlc9852
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To me, the problem is that we say that learning math and science only makes sense if you want to pursue a career in that area.

The fact is, regardless of your career, knowledge of math and science is critical to your success, even if you are an MBA. In today's economy, with its focus on technology, if you do not have an understanding of math and science, it puts you at a disadvantage, even if you don't go into a career directly as a scientists.


20 posted on 02/01/2006 10:24:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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