Posted on 02/01/2006 7:38:50 AM PST by Reagan Man
Salient and often overlooked logic ping!
It keeps the campaign coffers full of cheap-labor, corporate money, and panders to the Hispanic vote at the same time. That's why.
Lots of Canadians speak French. So no illegal aliens allowed from Quebec...I get it now!
How about the standard NO ILLEGAL ALIENS. We really don't need to specify their color or what language they speak...or even their country of origin. Let's make everyone come in the proper way...through the FRONT door.
Who's doing this? We are trying to punish people for breaking our laws. Anarchy by any measure diminishes our country. Illegals are not just "chasing a dream" they are breaking laws on a daily basis.
Are you trying to be funny or just playing?
How about the standard NO ILLEGAL ALIENS. We really don't need to specify their color or what language they speak...or even their country of origin. Let's make everyone come in the proper way...through the FRONT door.
That's great! Glad you came over to our side. :)
Laws are broken everyday, everywhere. If people were serious about real criminals,, it might be different.
We don't have enough room to incarcerate rapists and murderers. Because a Mexican sneaked into the US makes him illegal yes, but a threat, not necessarily.
Just a smokescreen argument to demonize illegals.
I appreciate the questions, but I have been fooling with this thread for damn near five hours. It's interfering with Mark Levin. Feel free to send me a freepmail.
See ya.
The illegals are here illegally. The punishment for that crime is deportation on a first offense and it is a felony on the second offense. The way to get "right" with the law is to quit being here illegally. In other words, leave. Beyond being here illegal, many aliens are also guilty of numerous other crimes including our employment laws, tax evasion, driving illegally, identity theft and identity fraud, and the list goes on.
President Bush is proposing forgiving all of these crimes that would cause serious grief if a citizen got caught committing them. Rather than fining them for their many crimes and deporting them for coming illegally as the law would require he is proposing to reward them with legal status. It is temporary status but it is most definitely a get out of jail free card. You bet it is amnesty!
What better way to find the illegals and create a papertrail with their names and other personal data, than to offer them a "temporary worker card".
Who cares what there names are? Building this paper trail is just going to be an expensive bureaucratic mess and they are going to lie about their identities anyway. Let's just make them leave. There are 11 million of them! They are everywhere; they are simple to find and having their names and addresses is not going to make it any easier. We have the names and addresses of the 300,000 Central Americans and that is not making it any easier to get them to go home.
Next, they have to show papers of legal residency or they can't: bank, attend school, and get any medical care but life-and-death.
They will all deport themselves.
I've always been on your side....I just didn't want it to become an issue of race or culture, it makes us look like nazi's.
It's about the law...about letting in the elements of other societies that benefit ours. If you don't benefit us we don't want you...plain and simple! :)
Sorry I forgot the < /sarcasm> in my last post. A smiley always helps too.
You are definitely on to something. You can't speak english...you can't do business. You can't speak english...you can't go to school. No drivers license? ...you can't drive. No green card?..you can't work.
We might see a rise in crime for a while, but they'll quit coming in in droves.
And the President clearly lied. See my Post 263.
I don't think, however, that most people are disputing the fact that we won't be able to send the guest workers home when their time runs out. We certainly know where most of the illegals are NOW, we know where to find them, where they live and where their children go to school... and what difference does that make? Nada.
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Social Security reform remains the third rail of American politics. PresReagan was the first POTUS to advance the idea of private SS accounts. He had top settle for the Greenspan Commission.
The Dems may have SS firmly as their issue, for now. But on immigration reform, Americans are demanding action, right now. Most Americans support the Patriot Act.
Dang. It was going well till you brought up the nazis. It's hard enough to have to endure that misplaced sobriquet when dealing with liberals but when our own start using it against people who simply want the laws and our border enforced it gives them the idea that they may be right.
So, please don't use that term unless you actually come across people kicking in doors and shuffling people off to ovens.
Other than that we agree. :)
Brazilian, huh?
Talk is cheap and five years of talk is enough! Actions speak louder then words.
See this post #259 It may explain Bush's lack of action.
I sent him a short polite reply that although I wouldn't vote Democrat, I also am no longer giving the Republicans a free vote until they actually do something about illegal immigration.
I doubt anyone will read it.
I couldn't think of another term besides racist and I'd already used that one.
Remember, it was GW who has been looking at this as a cultural/race issue. He has from the very beginning.
By the way, when did we have that debate about his "new America"? I certainly don't remember it.
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