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National Review ^ | February 01, 2006 | Wesley J, Smith

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida

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To: BykrBayb

Your caption re: Mel Martinez' flip flop, bravo.


1,081 posted on 02/17/2006 8:53:26 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

I am starting a Crist blooper list for 2006. He's already stuck his foot in his mouth in Tampa Bay: CRIST BLOOPER #1.
2-16-06 Crist was on www.baynews9.com, a presser on scene yesterday from The Long Shadow Inn Assisted Living facility. It's obvious that Fla AG Crist libeled the facility and today in the Tampa Tribune, the owner of the AL is asking for an apology. There is no comment from Crist's office. Even a smart senior went on baynews9 and said that Crist was lying and that it was a marvelous AL.
Crist will make things up to get on tv. Can Florida's AG be charged with slander? I doubt it. Look at what Judge Greer his friend did to Terri and he kept his job. (Judge Greed http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com)


1,082 posted on 02/17/2006 9:11:03 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: T'wit

Terri's nurses have families too. Who wants to be run off the road, etc? Cindy Shook was.


1,083 posted on 02/17/2006 9:13:19 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: bjs1779

Re: #1061. It is amazing how much information you can find if you know what you're looking for. Well done!

For everyone who thinks research like this is a waste of time, remember that LE has cold case files. Sometimes modern technology and research capabilities allow for a case to be solved. Once again, great find bjs : )


1,084 posted on 02/17/2006 9:45:25 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: 8mmMauser

Good article. My bf and I know each other's wishes. Mainly, do not starve or dehydrate us. I'm buried up to my neck in BS (found out Post Office sent my utility bills back-spent 5 hours on the phone trying to straighten it out, yesterday.), but I do have a medical Power of Attorney saved to favorites, and I printed out two copies of the "Will to Live". Now to fill them out. Aaaarghhhh!

Family structure is akin to a HUD home in a low income area. It's falling apart. People need to pay attention to who is going to be their next of kin in an emergency, or due to illness.


1,085 posted on 02/17/2006 11:00:20 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: BykrBayb

Brilliant freeper humor!!


1,086 posted on 02/17/2006 12:37:25 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: T'wit
Fair enough.

Well, on second thought, maybe this part of the autopsy was not quite fair.

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Comment: Brain weight is an important index of its pathologic state. Brain weight is correlated with height, weight, age and sex. The decedent's brain was grossly abnormal and weighted only 615 grams (1.35 lbs.) That weight is less than half of the expected tabular weight for a decedent of her adult age of 41 years 3 months and 28 days. By way of comparison, the brain of Karen Ann Quinlan weighed 835 grams at the time of her death, after 10 years of similar persistent vegetative state.

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I think Karen Ann Quinlan was hydrated until the day she died, but I didn't see a notation recognizing that difference in the report.

I wonder what is this M.E. is going to say when he puts a brain of a hemispherectomy patient on his scales. Compare him to Terri Schiavo? : ) (No insult intended to Terri)

1,087 posted on 02/17/2006 1:14:50 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: T'wit
She and another CNA named Olga.

The M.E. discounted all of the CNA and nurse testimony in his report. Not a word about Michael's testimony. You did know that?

1,088 posted on 02/17/2006 2:22:41 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Yes, that was a cheap shot. But wasn't it by the other guy, who did the brain exam, not Thogmartin? (I'm not in a position to look it up right now, but that's my recollection.)


1,089 posted on 02/17/2006 2:24:01 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: T'wit
Yes, that was a cheap shot. But wasn't it by the other guy, who did the brain exam, not Thogmartin?

Yes, it was Nelson. Thogmarartin, who thinks he must also be a rehabilitation neurologist made this remark. ""This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."

1,090 posted on 02/17/2006 2:39:52 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

""In connection with a transient dehydration the patient showed a sudden bilateral cortical blindness.""

Bjs1779, the information you posted on *cortical blindness*, is huge. From your report, Terri's cortical blindness was due to dehydration and not a prior condition. The death camp used the finding of cortical blindness in the autopsy, as spin to dispute the fact that Terri could see people, ballons and etc.

Your find is amazing. Michael Schiavo abused Terri all those years by refusing to supply her with glasses. It was obviously that she had vision problems. All one had to do was look at the photos of her wearing glasses (thick ones) as a child. Terri was a real fighter, who over came so many cruel obstacles. Even without the glasses, she obviously needed, she did her best to respond.

The autopsy was used by those who supported Terri's death, to invalidate the videos. Where were the the specialists who could have explained the effects of dehydration and cortical blindness? I sure didn't hear it explained anywhere, except here, by you, bjs1779.

Thank God for FreeRepublic and it's Freepers~!!!!


1,091 posted on 02/17/2006 3:04:44 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: BykrBayb

Singer is a whack job. All I can really gather from his article is that it's ok in his world if you kill deliberately and say that is why you are killing. Such as killing the unborn and feeble I guess? He wants Bush to say, "yes I meant to kill innocent people if that's what it takes to put another skull on my shelf." The people in Singer's view finder are just as innocent, so who's the hypocrite? Why is it ok for him to say "kill these innocents, but don't kill those innocents." Or better yet: "ONLY I have the power to decide who dies and who lives." One sick nut case.


1,092 posted on 02/17/2006 3:06:37 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: bjs1779
>> A complete reversal of the clinical state was achieved.

Interesting find. Especially interesting that the cortical blindness was fully corrected despite damage due to tissue hypoxia and edema. Nevertheless, we can conclude that dehydration causes all sorts of nasty things to happen to the patient. Death by dehydration is not reversible.

1,093 posted on 02/17/2006 4:52:05 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: Pepper777
Where were the the specialists who could have explained the effects of dehydration and cortical blindness?

I don't think there are any. Almost no one dies of pure dehydration by itself in our part of the world, at least not enough to perform these type of studies. JMO

The best place to look, and I think it is off limits for some good reasons, would be the grotesque experiments that the Nazi doctors did. From from what I have heard, they are detailed. I guess that would be irony alright!

Also, Hydrocephalus that Dr. Hammesfhar said she had can impede vision and also cause further brain injury if not treated. Which it was not. Again, no mention of that in the autopsy report that I could see, other than they drained some spinal fluid from the brain cavity with no further comment.

1,094 posted on 02/17/2006 5:15:58 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
>> The M.E. discounted all of the CNA and nurse testimony in his report.

Presumably because the court did. If he had given due weight to what they testified, it would have stirred up the hornets but good.

>> Not a word about Michael's testimony. You did know that?

Yes, but would you please elaborate? I'd like your insights.

1,095 posted on 02/17/2006 5:16:24 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: bjs1779
>> "This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."

Doctors love to say things like this. So do haruspices.

1,096 posted on 02/17/2006 5:20:23 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: bjs1779
>> descriptions by the judge

The legally blind one?

1,097 posted on 02/17/2006 5:23:04 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: T'wit
If he had given due weight to what they testified, it would have stirred up the hornets but good.

If you go back and refresh your memory of the report, I think you will find he was quite emphatic about it.

You are right about the hornets nest. They gave the media what they wanted and that is why me and you can look at the report in two different ways, not to mention their public statements that error on my side!

I think I am out of 'insights' for tonight. : )

1,098 posted on 02/17/2006 5:40:49 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: TheSpottedOwl; Pepper777

I appreciate your remarks. Don't make a habit of it though, I am one of those people who run away from compliments! : )


1,099 posted on 02/17/2006 5:52:52 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser

One sees the name of Arthur Caplan in the Death Coven. He's in at least one panel and appears again in the closing remarks. He must eat Crispy Death Flakes for breakfast.


1,100 posted on 02/17/2006 6:04:36 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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