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Sluggish private job growth indicates failure of tax cuts
EPI ^ | Jan 31, 2006 | Lee Price

Posted on 01/31/2006 6:13:23 PM PST by liberallarry

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1 posted on 01/31/2006 6:13:24 PM PST by liberallarry
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"Who founded EPI?
EPI was founded by a group of economic policy experts that includes Jeff Faux, EPI's first president; economist Barry Bluestone of Northeastern University; Robert Kuttner, columnist for Business Week and Newsweek and editor of The American Prospect; Ray Marshall, former U.S. secretary of labor and professor at the LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas-Austin; Robert Reich, former U.S. secretary of labor and professor at Brandeis University; and economist Lester Thurow of the MIT Sloan School of Management."


2 posted on 01/31/2006 6:17:21 PM PST by frankjr
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Not one of these clowns is a real economist with any genuine intellectual heft. That list is a joke.


3 posted on 01/31/2006 6:18:59 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: frankjr

Now there's an objective bunch. </sarcasm>


4 posted on 01/31/2006 6:19:33 PM PST by Arm_Bears (You are the New Day.)
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To: liberallarry

I'll remember this if we ever experience "sluggish private job growth" in America again.


5 posted on 01/31/2006 6:20:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: liberallarry
This may be a dumb question just how would taxing the "crap" out of everyone create any growth??
6 posted on 01/31/2006 6:21:52 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: Enchante

If the economy is "sluggist" after the tax cuts, how would these pointy headed fools account for the increase in the amount of taxes collected.


7 posted on 01/31/2006 6:22:02 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: liberallarry
Sluggish private job growth indicates failure of tax cuts..........

It does not "indicate" any such thing.

With the economic hits of high oil prices and climbing interest rates, there may very well have been job LOSES and recession if the tax cuts had not kept money in buyer's pockets.

8 posted on 01/31/2006 6:22:36 PM PST by Polybius
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To: liberallarry

They write this article like nothing special happened twixt 2001 to now.


9 posted on 01/31/2006 6:22:38 PM PST by stylin19a (God does not apply to your alloted time, the hours spent playing golf.)
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To: liberallarry

What a bunch of bull. We'd be in a recession if it weren't for the tax cuts. This economy has survived a steep increase in oil prices, not to mention natural disasters.


10 posted on 01/31/2006 6:23:26 PM PST by Brilliant
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Taxing and spending your way into prosperity? Utterly moronic.

Supporters of these tax cuts have touted them as great contributors to growth in jobs and pay. But, in reality, private-sector job growth since 2001 has been disappointing,

Gosh, I wonder if anything happened between 1999 and 2002 to interfere with job growth that somehow isn't mentioned in the article... like the dot-com bubble burst, the corporate scandals, the worst terrorist attack in history targeting the nation's economic heart... nah, that can't have anything to do with it.

Predictable liberals... actual growth in the face of those enormous obstacles, and it simply isn't enough... and more government spending is the answer.

Utterly moronic.

11 posted on 01/31/2006 6:25:07 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Steveone
Shhh... Don't tell anyone, but the real goal is a Socialist Utopia, with the EPI group and others like them in control of the slaves people.
12 posted on 01/31/2006 6:27:04 PM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Enchante; frankjr
"Who founded EPI?

Who cares? Ad hominems won't cut it as a refutation of facts or ideas.

Not one of these clowns is a real economist with any genuine intellectual heft

One could say - with quite a bit of justice - that no econmists have any genuine intellectual heft. But Kuttner and Thurow are good.

But all this is irrelevant. The article is simple as could be; All job creation since Bush took office can be fairly attributed to increased government spending. The tax cuts - which mostly went to wealthy individuals - contributed nothing which means that the beneficiaries of the cuts didn't think investing in job creation in America was a good idea.

Wrong or right? Supporting evidence?

13 posted on 01/31/2006 6:27:58 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

It's all been downhill since the housing bubble burst five years ago.


14 posted on 01/31/2006 6:28:35 PM PST by SouthTexas (2006 will be a very good year.)
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To: frankjr

The fallacies in this article are in the conclusions, not the statistics.

If Liberals had it there way, they'd increase government spending by redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor. No jobs will have been created, and a great deal of the money given to the poor will end up in China.

Defense spending is one of the few legitimate expenses for the Federal Government. It does in fact create jobs, and it produces actual real products and services. Social spending produces very little and results in no new investments.

The very first number cited by the article is probably the tax revenues that would've been collected over the last 4 years, assuming that the degree, breadth, and scope of the economic recovery following 9/11 had nothing to do with the tax cuts. This is a fallacious assumption and a disingenuous attempt to disconnect the economic recovery from the very real effects of the tax cuts on the sales of durable goods.

Even if a lot of the jobs created were government jobs or related to government spending, it doesn't cause the economic recovery to cease to exist. Tax revenues are growing at a faster pace than their pre-tax cut rates. The tax burden has shifted more heavily onto the wealthy and the well to-do with the middle class and poorer citizens paying a smaller portion of the total tax pie than before the tax cuts.

This reminds me of that NYT's economist... What's his name? The one who writes all the books full of facts and statistics, but when it comes to writing his conclusions and his interpretations, the facts and stats go right out the window and he basically paraphrases the Socialist Party. He's required reading in some University of Hawaii economics classes.


15 posted on 01/31/2006 6:29:42 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Clock King
LOL thanks I will keep the secret!
16 posted on 01/31/2006 6:30:20 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: Polybius
With the economic hits of high oil prices and climbing interest rates, there may very well have been job LOSES and recession if the tax cuts had not kept money in buyer's pockets.

That's the key all right. But in whose pockets? Counter-cyclical tax cuts and government spending increases are standard Keynesian economics. But these are supposed to be middle-class tax cuts which stimulate private spending. Large tax cuts for wealthy individuals were supposed to stimulate business investment (and job creation). The authors argue that they didn't.

17 posted on 01/31/2006 6:32:54 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

This article is so full of wrong information that it pathetic. The writer still believes in the failed Keynesian economics.


18 posted on 01/31/2006 6:36:09 PM PST by Hendrix
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To: liberallarry

I'm thinking of a hurricane that begins with a "K."


19 posted on 01/31/2006 6:37:07 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: liberallarry

Government spending hurts the economy. It never, ever helps it. Any dollar that you pull out of the economy and put in the public sector hurts our economy,and it is as simple as that.


20 posted on 01/31/2006 6:42:06 PM PST by Hendrix
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