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Video shows officer shooting airman
modbee ^ | 1-31-06

Posted on 01/31/2006 1:06:17 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: T.Smith

You feeling alright?


41 posted on 01/31/2006 2:48:22 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: El Gato
The "police are always wrong" crowd always confuses me. They take a "them vrs us" stand when the police are our sons and daughters, hired by us, trained by us, and paid by us to stand in harms way. Then at the slightest transgression, we turn on them like Piranha and devour them without giving them even the slightest benefit of doubt.

A few months ago a police officer was in line behind us at the local coffee drive-thru. I paid for his coffee when I got to the window and drove off not wanting any thanks. The officer drove up and down Broadway until he noticed my wife and I having our coffee. He stopped and visited with us and offered his thanks. It surprised me that he was so thankful for such a random act of kindness.

42 posted on 01/31/2006 2:49:40 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Television is the most perfect democracy, You sit there with your remote control and vote")
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To: LouAvul

Cop shouldn't be allowed to come close to a gun anymore. Seems to be a little excitable.

Should we start a pool for the caliber?


43 posted on 01/31/2006 2:53:58 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

"Should we start a pool for the caliber?"

I'd bet a case of whiskey it was a 9 mm. Good whiskey. ;-)


44 posted on 01/31/2006 2:58:28 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: T.Smith

"100 mph car chase that ended in a wreck? Cop should have shot them both."

Some would argue that this attitude is why an escape was necessary.


45 posted on 01/31/2006 3:22:12 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Osage Orange

I agree with you....
Not being a police man...and never playing one on T.V. I do find it odd..and seemingly illogical to tell a perp...to "get up" after he's already laying on the ground....

Isn't it customary to handcuff them while laying face down?


The piece doesn't really tell us much. Perhaps those in the Corvette knew who was chasing them and thought they would be executed. Aha, a conspiracy might have been afoot.


46 posted on 01/31/2006 3:24:39 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: El Gato
You just nailed it. A week after I got back from overseas three of my friends took me for a ride in a Mustang convertible. They decided to see if they could peg the speedometer at 125. I was in the back seat and could do nothing but pray to God to get me back alive... "Just this one more time God. Just this one more time."

Fortunately, God was still on active duty.
47 posted on 01/31/2006 3:25:34 PM PST by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
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To: LouAvul

That is not a tragedy; it is a crime of attempted murder - IF what this article describes is true and supported by the tape. A tragedy is when someone is harmed in an accident.


48 posted on 01/31/2006 3:32:01 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: El Gato
Given that California doesn't allow anyone but cops, and not military ones, to carry a gun

Depends upon which part of the state you're in. It varies from county to county. Some counties are pretty easy. Some are impossible (unless you're somehow connected to a politician).

49 posted on 01/31/2006 3:38:29 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: PreciousLiberty
I'd bet a case of whiskey it was a 9 mm. Good whiskey. ;-)

IMPOSSIBLE!

If it had been a ''9'' the devastating effects of *hydrostatic shock* would have left the victim a smoking pile of garden mulch!

50 posted on 01/31/2006 3:45:09 PM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

The bottom line is:

Anytime someone is pointing a firearm at you, your life is in immediate jeopardy, so choose your actions, or lack of action, wisely.

Arguably, refusing to comply with the order to rise would have resulted in a lesser injury as the policeman collected his wits while deciding how to deal with the new challenge.


51 posted on 01/31/2006 3:51:33 PM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: School of Rational Thought
The piece doesn't really tell us much

That's pretty much it, in a nutshell.

52 posted on 01/31/2006 3:56:05 PM PST by Osage Orange (Why does John McCain always look like a mule eating cockleburrs?)
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To: papertyger; PreciousLiberty

You guys are being mean to the 9mm lovers. LOL


53 posted on 01/31/2006 3:57:50 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: MineralMan
Best bet is to wander off after shooting the video, make a copy, then let the police and the media know that the video exists.

Naw, the best is to not let anyone know you have a copy, and give the copy to the police. Then when they come out with a manipulated and edited version you slam them with the original.

54 posted on 01/31/2006 4:07:14 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: LouAvul

Hmm, shot in the chest AND in the ribs, eh? Is that like getting shot in the stomach and in the abdomen?


55 posted on 01/31/2006 6:05:53 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: TalonDJ
Care to explain why you think they should shoot unarmed people after the crime is finished?

A poorly written article but..

1) There is obvious evidence the crime was still in progress
2) The perps were only recently disarmed and still in reach of the obvious weapon.
3) The perps may have had additional weapons still concealed from the LEO.

The only salient thing that can be said about the exchange of conversation and any misunderstandings that triggered the shooting is:

Remaining motionless, on the ground, with empty hands in plain sight of LEOs, even if disobeying a direct order, almost precludes the chance of an accidental injury by gun shoot.

56 posted on 01/31/2006 7:43:43 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: PreciousLiberty

Ya, I'll go with 9mm. Either that or a .22. I know my wife can't shoot a .38 but she loves her 9mm and her .22. Oh, and her .32 also. So either 9mm, .22 or .32.

Hmm. To choose, to choose .....


57 posted on 01/31/2006 8:17:51 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: SkyPilot

I saw this video this morning on Today, and it was very grainy and sketchy, but your account seems accurate. It was very disturbing to watch. I think they probably had a Barney Fife on their hands.


58 posted on 02/01/2006 6:37:47 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Chuck Cooperstein is a tool.)
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To: papertyger

"If it had been a ''9'' the devastating effects of *hydrostatic shock* would have left the victim a smoking pile of garden mulch!"

LOL! Thanks, I needed that!


59 posted on 02/01/2006 8:18:15 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: T.Smith
100 mph car chase that ended in a wreck? Cop should have shot them both.

Let me guess. You're a cop?

I hope this deputy goes to jail for a very long time. The video is pretty clear. The cop told the guy to get up and then when he didn't he shot him 3 times and then (the cop) kept saying "Shut the #$@& up."
60 posted on 02/01/2006 1:32:16 PM PST by CanisRex (Beware of altruism. It is based on self-deception, the root of all evil. --Lazarus Long)
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