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Mich. judge ridiculed on teens' Web site strikes back
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/ ^ | 1 30 06 | associated press

Posted on 01/31/2006 2:23:59 AM PST by freepatriot32

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To: Al Gator
We drank at 18. Our mothers made sure we didn't leave the house till we ate. That was in the '60s.

Oh yea, the 60's youth were such upstanding model citizens. Hippies, drugs, antiwar protests were all a dream, huh?.

Every generation bemoans the state of the youth as they age; out of jealousy I guess.

61 posted on 01/31/2006 5:52:26 AM PST by Joe Miner
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To: Labyrinthos
But when the law forces adults to drink illegally behind closed doors, the situation is ripe for abuse.

You have a novel definition of the word "force."

62 posted on 01/31/2006 5:52:46 AM PST by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: freepatriot32

Stupid children. This judge may have just saved them from some real heartache in the future. The parents' comments prove where the problem lies.


63 posted on 01/31/2006 5:52:52 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: samtheman

I take it you have never done shoots Jager. Just picture the photo a bottle of Jager shoot glasses with dark liquid in them.


64 posted on 01/31/2006 5:56:28 AM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
I take it you have never done shoots Jager. Just picture the photo a bottle of Jager shoot glasses with dark liquid in them.
In a photo, the only thing you can say about "glasses with dark liquid in them" is: "It looks like a picture of a glass with some kind of dark liquid in it."

It doesn't matter what else is in the picture. That's all you can say about pictures of drinking glasses filled with liquids.

Now I've already conceded that the girl's an idiot and gets what she deserves. There's no flippin' way I'm going to concede the pictures show anything other than contempt.

65 posted on 01/31/2006 6:00:43 AM PST by samtheman
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To: freepatriot32

no this was contempt.

They were disobeying a direct order of the judge. They were showing contumacious conduct with regards to the court and the orders of the court.

It was not personal. It is a standard procedure. You violate probation, you get the full sentence you were eligible to have.

ANY judge would be forced to do the same.


66 posted on 01/31/2006 6:07:39 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
They sure like to drink in Michigan. Nothing else to do during the winter time other than drink alcohol and play that stupid game Euchre

there's also a nice long hunting season, plenty of places to snowmobile, couple of passable ski resorts..
67 posted on 01/31/2006 6:14:20 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: tet68

68 posted on 01/31/2006 6:25:01 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Al Gator
In days gone by, you have a point. But you forget that today's kids were never taught responsibility or consequence.

Classic old fogey syndrome.

69 posted on 01/31/2006 6:31:20 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: RGSpincich
Stupid children. This judge may have just saved them from some real heartache in the future. The parents' comments prove where the problem lies.

This type of over the top reaction will just make them have nothing but distrust and contempt for the legal system.

A girl is doing 30 days in jail for drinking at her prom. That is over the top.

High school seniors and college students that drink are not exhibiting some sort of "cry for help" - it's part of growing up.

70 posted on 01/31/2006 6:34:08 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Wurlitzer
The mother obviously does not believe in accepting responsibility for ones actions.

Serving 30 days in jail for drinking at the prom goes far beyond "accepting responsibility".

This is a judge that got his feelings hurt and is lashing out. He is the very definition of an activist judge as he is an activist in anti-drinking programs.

He is a very simple and naive man if he thinks that his little programs will change one person. High school seniors and college students drink - it is illegal but it is what they do. It's not a cry for help or a sign of having a drinking problem - it's just the way the world is.

Look at some of the most successful and prominent people in this country - odds are that they drank in high school and college as well. The Bush twins did it and they have done very well in school and are on their way to being outstanding and productive citizens.

71 posted on 01/31/2006 6:40:17 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: freepatriot32

What was that old saw about two wrongs not making a right? The kids are wrong, and the judge is wrong.


72 posted on 01/31/2006 6:40:31 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: freepatriot32

are you kidding? Except for the one, those parents' reactions make it crystal clear why the kids are screwing up. My parents would have been furious with the judge if he gave me LESS than a month in jail.


73 posted on 01/31/2006 6:40:35 AM PST by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: JeffAtlanta
A girl is doing 30 days in jail for drinking at her prom.

Try again, kid.

Martone, who had appeared at Athens High days before the prom to warn graduating seniors against drinking, sentenced the students to probation, fines, court costs, community service and alcohol-education classes. As a condition of their probation, he ordered them not to drink and to avoid places where alcohol is served or consumed.

Not completing the original sentence as ordered has consequences. Another excellent lesson for the youths. Some people learn by others' mistakes. These kids, and probably you, are destined to learn from their own screw ups.

74 posted on 01/31/2006 6:41:04 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Try again, kid.

Try addressing me without the jerk attitude. This is a civil discussion and there is no need to get all bent out of shape.

75 posted on 01/31/2006 6:44:29 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
"Serving 30 days in jail for drinking at the prom goes far beyond "accepting responsibility"."

I am very disappointed JeffAtlanta. That is a response I would expect on the DU. A half true, wrapped in a partial truth. What about violating a judges order and a 2nd provable offense of underage drinking. You know damn well they were NOT give 30 days for drinking at the prom they were let go.

This society is absolutely doomed if we cannot accept responsibility for our actions and speak the WHOLE truth.

76 posted on 01/31/2006 6:47:09 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Try getting the facts right.


77 posted on 01/31/2006 6:52:09 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Wurlitzer
I am very disappointed JeffAtlanta. That is a response I would expect on the DU. A half true, wrapped in a partial truth. What about violating a judges order and a 2nd provable offense of underage drinking. You know damn well they were NOT give 30 days for drinking at the prom they were let go.

You are in error. She was not tried or charged for any offense beyond drinking at the prom. Since she was not charged or tried on those offenses, there is no way that she can serve time for them.

The website was used as evidence that she violated her probation for the charge of underage drinking at her prom - nothing more. When one violates their probation, the judge can then revisit the sentencing on the ORGINAL CHARGE. That is what happened here and the judge gave her 30 days in jail.

78 posted on 01/31/2006 6:52:28 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Wurlitzer

BTW, I see where you are coming from since they were charged with contempt of court rather than just revisiting the sentence of the original charge.

I see this as an abuse of power by the judge. If the person can't fulfill the terms of the probation then the sentence should simply be revisited.


79 posted on 01/31/2006 6:58:53 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: freepatriot32

How can he prove the bottles in the pictures weren't filled with Coke? I have a video of Uma Thurman killing a bunch of people with a sword. Better prosecute her for murder.


80 posted on 01/31/2006 7:02:49 AM PST by mysterio
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