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Dell to Hire 5,000 People in India
AP ^ | 1-30-06 | RAJESH MAHAPATRA

Posted on 01/30/2006 7:24:12 AM PST by Fawn

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To: Toddsterpatriot
Or are you saying my salary will suddenly double if sneakers are only made in America?

Maybe not double but certainly increase sharply. It doesn't matter if a price is high if your wage rises with it. Money doesn't have any other value than what men put on it. With internal trade, prices will not rise beyond the prevailing wage. The market forces will keep the two in line. Job abundance and relative worker scarcity will keep the wages in line with prices.

We don't have to wonder about this process. It has already worked. What's the point of changing it?

181 posted on 02/03/2006 10:24:17 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I don't know that I would worry overly much about gas. Every time our people have been squeezed, geniuses have popped up all over the place. $180 a barrel is pretty tight squeeze. Matter of fact, we got to the height of civilization we have now by way of squeezed geniuses.

182 posted on 02/03/2006 10:33:37 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Maybe not double but certainly increase sharply.

So, sneakers double in price and my salary will increase sharply? Why? Does my employer have to boost my salary to stay competitive with sneaker makers?

With internal trade, prices will not rise beyond the prevailing wage.

Why? How much will these American shoe makers pull down in salary? $6 an hour? $20 an hour?

Job abundance and relative worker scarcity will keep the wages in line with prices.

So, salaries double, prices double, how is that not 100% inflation? How does that not destroy 50% of our savings?

183 posted on 02/03/2006 10:48:45 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: William Terrell
I don't know that I would worry overly much about gas.

Right. Why worry? It's not like Americans need to drive to work. It's not like our goods are shipped in trucks.

Every time our people have been squeezed, geniuses have popped up all over the place. $180 a barrel is pretty tight squeeze.

Yes, a tight squeeze. Remind me what that squeeze in 1973, when oil quadrupled, did to our economy. Did our squeezed geniuses finally build the nuclear powered car? Or did we just go into a recession? That won't be a problem because we'll have all the new sneaker making jobs to boost the economy, right?

184 posted on 02/03/2006 10:55:19 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: brownsfan
There are many here who believe that the US should be a totally service/information based economy, manufacturing little or nothing. That was tried in Spain. Didn't work out so well for them.

It must be like Communism to the left. The only reason it hasn't worked is because the right people haven't tried it yet.

185 posted on 02/03/2006 11:06:40 PM PST by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking and conjecture.)
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To: Fawn
Wish it had health insurance.....I might apply.

Hence the reason for outsourcing....

186 posted on 02/03/2006 11:13:10 PM PST by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking and conjecture.)
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To: CodeToad
Yes, how about that story about the medical transcriber who outsourced to India and the Indian transcriber BRIBED the hospital with their own medical records to the tune of thousands and thousands of dollars because the outsourcer hadn't paid her.

That is OUR personal information that is NOT protected by OUR laws.

Tsk tsk on anyone who thinks cheap overseas labor is really cheap.

Ditto for illegal immigrant labor.
187 posted on 02/03/2006 11:14:23 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Fawn

These blokes know how to use tariffs.


188 posted on 02/03/2006 11:16:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: William Terrell

"The only reason I'm able to glean is that trading spit with other nations to such a degree will make them dependent on the American consumer for their riches, so that they wouldn't dare attack us. This shows an abysmal ignorance of human nature, especially that of despotic regimes. "

This may be my new tagline.


189 posted on 02/03/2006 11:18:15 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: lewislynn

You mean the Indians don't want or get health insurance? Do you have health insurance? Do you know how much it would cost for just a mammogram, exray, dr. visit? Do you think it's too unreasonable to have insurance??


190 posted on 02/04/2006 6:33:42 AM PST by Fawn
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To: Toddsterpatriot
So, sneakers double in price and my salary will increase sharply?

No, sneakers increase sharply. Double/double is for comparison purposes.

Does my employer have to boost my salary to stay competitive with sneaker makers?

Not on purpose. It just works that way with internal production and trade. It can't work that way when production and trade occurs internationally because oppressive regimes force their people to work at a repressive wage.

Why?

Because if they did people couldn't buy them.

So, salaries double, prices double, how is that not 100% inflation?

If wages stay consistent with prices, there is no underbuying and no overbuying. "Money" does not have a divine value set by God.

191 posted on 02/05/2006 8:07:37 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Did our squeezed geniuses finally build the nuclear powered car?

It was about that time when serious starts were made to find alternatives. There are alternatives to sources of refined fuels now (not corn or hydrogen), facing barriers to commercial production, not because they don't work.

Why limit ourselves to nuclear powered cars?

Never the less, foreign oil prices can only go up so far before it will be cost effective to squeeze the vast energy resources in oil shale, and other sources The oil argument is not a good one.

192 posted on 02/05/2006 8:15:45 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Fawn
Is there truly an "American" computer company?

It is just an on-going saga of sing/song voices reading from a canned script....

...the computer customer be damned.

193 posted on 02/05/2006 8:20:09 AM PST by pointsal
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To: William Terrell
Not on purpose. It just works that way with internal production and trade.

I suppose you have a real world example where a country stops imports and their economy doesn't sink?

If wages stay consistent with prices, there is no underbuying and no overbuying.

How do wages stay consistent with prices?

194 posted on 02/05/2006 10:23:20 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: William Terrell
Never the less, foreign oil prices can only go up so far before it will be cost effective to squeeze the vast energy resources in oil shale, and other sources The oil argument is not a good one.

Saying it is ridiculous to think that 8 miilion domestic barrels a day would be much more expensive than the 20 million barrels we currently consume is not a good argument?

Why doesn't 8 million barrels at $180 each crash our economy?

195 posted on 02/05/2006 10:25:30 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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