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A Principled Stand On Alito (The DLC opposes a filibuster)
Democrat Leadership Counsel ^

Posted on 01/29/2006 2:27:33 PM PST by Pukin Dog

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To: Howlin

I heard Tuesday also. They even mentioned that Alito would be sworn in and with the other justices in time of the SOTU Address.


81 posted on 01/29/2006 3:47:53 PM PST by mware (The keeper of the I's once again.)
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To: mware

Mo' tea?


82 posted on 01/29/2006 3:48:05 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks. I should have known you'd have ALL the details. :-)


83 posted on 01/29/2006 3:54:48 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Howlin

bttt


84 posted on 01/29/2006 3:58:07 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Howlin

I would love to see Young Jack Roberts in the gallery too but I fear he might try to climb down it.


85 posted on 01/29/2006 4:00:15 PM PST by mware (The keeper of the I's once again.)
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To: 6SJ7

Although a dem state, Louisiana is far more conservative than Mass. It would have cost him here. No doubt it would be helpful in Mass.

I like your handle. Sounds like an old radio vacuum tube number.


86 posted on 01/29/2006 4:03:49 PM PST by USN40VET
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To: mware
or sitting with Laura in the gallery.

That would be sweet. Like rubbing the rats noses in dog poo.

87 posted on 01/29/2006 4:14:13 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Pukin Dog

George Allen was asked why he thought that Kerry and others were talking filibuster...and he said the same as you "fundraising"...


88 posted on 01/29/2006 4:26:44 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Pukin Dog; jveritas

Soros and Moveon.org...stated after the election in 2004...that they OWN the dem party...because of all of the $$$$$$ that was put in their coffers...

and that the agenda would be set by them...and from what I have seen, that has played out...


89 posted on 01/29/2006 4:29:54 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Howlin

I think at this point...it is a win-win situation for President Bush either way.

The dems will have pooped in their oatmeal again..


90 posted on 01/29/2006 4:36:31 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Brandon
And it will be just as wrong then as it is now.

Maybe, but such a nominee would not only be antithetical to what I (and most conservatives) believe on individual issues, but more importantly than that would disagree fundamentally on the purpose of the law. I believe the purpose of the law is to defend Constitutional liberties and secure the Republic. Leftists like Justice Ginsburg would probably agree with the above, but would add that they see the law as a tool to enact nonviolent social revolution, and overthrow the existing moral and cultural order.

So I disagree with that fundamentally, just as the left disagrees with Alito's originalism because it is not likely to read into the Constitution the most cherished aspects of their social revolution.

Though I too get angry that the left has thoroughly politicized the nomination process, the fact is that they are just being consistent with their stated beliefs. Their is really nothing hypocritical about it. I disagree with their fundamental worldview more than I do their tactics.

91 posted on 01/29/2006 4:59:29 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Howlin
And are the Democrats still planning on boycotting the State of the Union?

I sure hope they are - what a great statement about the old RAT party. Maybe we can have a split of RATs even before the '06 midterms - ya think?

92 posted on 01/29/2006 5:46:08 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin during wartime considered Sedition?)
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To: bray
You think that $oro$ being at the Davos conference is a coincidence?? He is still paying for the shots! Just another example of Yaaawn Cut & Run being a spineless coward. Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

Does anyone know if King George is still pushing for banning all firearms in America and for the legalization of hard drugs? He is quite a guy and the RATs are so beholden to this American HATER. Send him back to Hungary or wherever hole he crawled out of.

93 posted on 01/29/2006 5:48:16 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin during wartime considered Sedition?)
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To: EGPWS
We need a Kerry/Sheehan ticket in '08! : )

I would prefer a Sheehan/Kerry ticket. Clearly we all know that Kerry can't win, give Mother Sheehan a chance! I would like to see her as CIC, wouldn't you?

94 posted on 01/29/2006 5:52:38 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin during wartime considered Sedition?)
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To: p23185
"Clearly we all know that Kerry can't win, give Mother Sheehan a chance!"

Let's see if Moon-bat Sheehan can take out Fineswine first.

95 posted on 01/29/2006 6:17:06 PM PST by spokeshave (I can give you my opinion, but I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I love that they want to mount a failed filibuster...they won't get the votes and will piss so many people off in the process. My ueber-lefty mother is speechless over their stupidity, I loved informing her that Kerry had been coordinating this from Switzerland.


96 posted on 01/29/2006 9:08:15 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Cboldt

After cloture is invoked up to thirty hours of debate is allowed under the Senate Rules. That means that the Democrats could filibuster up to 30 hours after a successful cloture vote. If they sucessfuly are able to do this it would deny the Pres. an opportunity to appear at the SOTU with Alito as a Supreme Court Justice. Have the democrats waived their right to 30 hours of debate after cloture is invoked or are they going to take the 30 hours of debate and delay the Tuesday vote until later in the week?


97 posted on 01/30/2006 1:18:54 AM PST by old republic
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To: old republic
After cloture is invoked up to thirty hours of debate is allowed under the Senate Rules. ... Have the democrats waived their right to 30 hours of debate after cloture is invoked or ...

There is a Unanimous Consent agreement that overrides the normal intervals prescribed in the Senate Rules.

You noted the discrepancy in the 30 hours of debate, post cloture, but there is also a discrepancy in the timing of taking the cloture vote itself. The rule says,

... and one hour after the Senate meets on the following calendar day but one, he shall lay the motion before the Senate and direct that the clerk call the roll, and upon the ascertainment that a quorum is present, the Presiding Officer shall, without debate, submit to the Senate by a yea-and-nay vote the question:

"Is it the sense of the Senate that the debate shall be brought to a close?" ...

http://rules.senate.gov/senaterules/rule22.php

The Senate is now in adjournment, until 10:00 am Monday (today), so if the cloture vote was taken at the time prescribed by the rules, it would be at 11:00 am.

Not only that, but after the cloture motion was filed on Thursday, Senator Frist allowed that debate may have been conducted on Saturday and Sunday, should any Senators desire.

We are now scheduled to have a vote on January 31. That is the agreement the Democrat leader and I agreed to in representing our caucuses earlier today. That means we will have had a total of 5 days of floor activity. It is 8 o'clock tonight. We have had speech and debate over the course of the day, and we will have debate tomorrow. As everyone is well aware, we are given plenty of time in the Senate. We could stay here later tonight, tomorrow, tomorrow night. I said we will plow through Saturday until we get this done. It will end up being 5 days in terms of floor action.

24 . ALITO NOMINATION -- (Senate - January 26, 2006)

If there had been a Saturday session, and Rule XXII was followed without having been modified by the unanimous consent agreement, the cloture vote could have happened on Saturday morning.

Anyway, that summary of what "could have - would have" is overridden by a Unanimous Consent agreement.

UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGREEMENTS

(SAMUEL A. ALITO, JR. [Cal. No. 490])

Ordered, that at 10 a.m. on Monday, January 30, 2006 , the Senate proceed to executive session and resume consideration of the nomination of Samuel A. Alito, Jr., of New Jersey, to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.

Ordered further, That the time from 10 to 11 a.m. be under the control of the Democratic Leader or his designee; the time from 11 a.m. to noon be under the control of the Majority Leader or his designee, with the time alternating in the same manner for the rest of the day.

Ordered further, That at 4 p.m. the Democratic Leader or his designee be recognized for up to 15 minutes, and that the final 15 minutes before the cloture vote be under the control of the Majority Leader or his designee.

Ordered further, That at 4:30 p.m. on Monday, January 30, 2006, the cloture vote occur on the nomination of Samuel A. Alito, Jr.; provided further, that the mandatory quorum under Rule XXII be waived. Ordered further, That if cloture is invoked, notwithstanding the provisions of Rule XXII, the Senate proceed to a vote on the confirmation of the nomination at 11 a.m. on Tuesday, January 31, 2006; provided further, that all debate time on Tuesday prior to 11 a.m. be equally divided between the Majority Leader and Democratic Leader or their designees, and that the cloture vote may be vitiated with agreement of the two Leaders.

(January 26 and 27, 2006.)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/executive_calendar/xcalv.pdf

That contents at that link will change at some point, as the link is to the daily version of the Senate's Executive Calendar.

The vote on the nomination is fixed at 4:30 PM Tuesday, contingent on either passage or vitiation of the pending cloture motion.

98 posted on 01/30/2006 4:33:15 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: old republic
Coffee hasn't kicked in ... a correction that should be obvious in context, but rather than cause a mild panic ;-) ...

The vote on the nomination is fixed at 4:30 PM11:00 AM Tuesday, contingent on either passage or vitiation of the pending cloture motion.

99 posted on 01/30/2006 4:34:54 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thanks for the information. Sounds like the nomination is going to barely squeak by before the State of the Union Address. Tuesday is looking to be a big day.


100 posted on 01/30/2006 4:44:50 AM PST by old republic
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