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BOWERS: What's so bad about suburban sprawl anyway?
The Star [South Chicago] ^ | 1/39/6 | Michael Bowers

Posted on 01/29/2006 7:17:24 AM PST by SmithL

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To: HairOfTheDog
Well who would?

LOL, I have a Bergey wind generator. This area of the country is primo for them. Weatherford Ok has massive wind generator farms right off I-40, I think they're cool, and the land owners seem to like the huge check they receive each month from the power companies. I think the point is that dems like kennedy speak with forked tongue, they want the power and the alternatives, they just don't think they should have to look at it, them being better than myself and all....

81 posted on 01/29/2006 10:28:58 AM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
McMansion neighborhoods surrounded by WalMart-Kohls-Target-Home Depot shopping centers, with the same chains of restaurants: Olive Garden, TGI Fridays, Starbucks, Red Lobster, blah, blah, blah.

So true. Arlington, North Richland Hills, Plano, Mesquite. They're almost identical.

I used to enjoy the occasional Saturday shopping excursion but no longer.

Now it's an all day ordeal of traffic jams, big box retailers full of overpriced junk and crowded chain restaurants serving lame food.

*shudder*

I can't wait to get out of here.

82 posted on 01/29/2006 10:31:08 AM PST by primeval patriot
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To: primeval patriot
I can't wait to get out of here.

And go where? That's the question.

83 posted on 01/29/2006 10:32:16 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: ScreamingFist
moved to the sticks so I wouldn't be subjected to unlimited views of home depots and walmarts and the opinions of nasty little snots like you.....

Oh boo hoo. Others have freedom of choice and you just don't like it. Too bad.

84 posted on 01/29/2006 10:33:05 AM PST by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Rural East Texas, that's the plan anyway.


85 posted on 01/29/2006 10:35:34 AM PST by primeval patriot
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To: bfree

Can't we have a discussion this without that kind of post?


86 posted on 01/29/2006 10:35:43 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: primeval patriot

Hope that works for awhile... :~D


87 posted on 01/29/2006 10:36:37 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: BenLurkin

Not as long as there are those who don't believe people have free choice as to where they live, where they shop and wish to dictate their beliefs on others as to how they should live their lives. That's what democrats are for.


88 posted on 01/29/2006 10:38:42 AM PST by bfree (PC is BS)
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To: primeval patriot
Rural East Texas, that's the plan anyway.

Good plan. The piney woods also have great hog and deer hunting.

89 posted on 01/29/2006 10:42:04 AM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: bfree
Not as long as there are those who don't believe people have free choice as to where they live, where they shop and wish to dictate their beliefs on others as to how they should live their lives. That's what democrats are for.

What part of "I moved to the sticks of my own free choice" don't you understand? If you want to have your communities planned by tax revenue minded committees, that's your free choice. Just don't expect others to believe that a new home depot, 3 miles from the other one, is a panacea for good living.

90 posted on 01/29/2006 10:51:25 AM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: HairOfTheDog; ScreamingFist

My parents moved out there almost twenty years ago so I'm
somewhat familiar with what it takes to make the transition with regards to obtaining land, housing, employment and getting along with the locals.

East Texas has its problems but I can't think of any other place I'd rather go.


91 posted on 01/29/2006 11:00:36 AM PST by primeval patriot
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Whyisa, get a load of this article.


92 posted on 01/29/2006 11:04:44 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I never got a job from a person on a government program.)
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To: primeval patriot

It's too hot for me down there I think... I love my shady trees up here in Washington.... There's too many people, but we can still get away from it :~D Luckily.

Good luck to you getting off the pavement.


93 posted on 01/29/2006 11:04:45 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: primeval patriot
East Texas has its problems but I can't think of any other place I'd rather go.

We all have our roots. I moved back to Oklahoma 3 years ago. My land taxes last year were....$13, quite a change from the $2900 for a house and lot in west Fort Worth. I've never looked back.

94 posted on 01/29/2006 11:10:38 AM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I like it! What amazes me is the people who bitch about new homes going up as if their own home was a rock formation that had always existed. At one time, their home was phase one of "urban sprawl".


95 posted on 01/29/2006 11:14:29 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Lunatic Fringe

you can see something more disturbing. McMansion neighborhoods surrounded by WalMart-Kohls-Target-Home Depot shopping centers

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Yes, this drives me to near psychosis. I lost 35 hours of sleep thinking about it last night.


96 posted on 01/29/2006 11:17:25 AM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: The Coopster

In my travels to Canada, I have observed that that is what they are doing - at least near Toronto. You see lots of 15-10 story high rises even though there may be open land near by.

I visited coworkers and I can't say these complexes impressed me as the happiest place to live.


97 posted on 01/29/2006 11:21:32 AM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: Max in Utah

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4213495.stm

This says they appeared in the latest warming age, however much more ancient than 12000 years.


98 posted on 01/29/2006 11:23:15 AM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: SmithL

Let the market work. If you don't like sprawl, don't move there. I don't like it, so I live in an older neighborhood. Lots of new homeowners love the suburbs, though, so let them live there. I prefer the small restaurant to the homogenized stuff out there, but lots of people like the convenience of those other places.

I was in Houston once, where they had little or no zoning. I asked someone how they decided what could be built on a lot. The person said that whoever wants to invest their money gets to decide. They don't rely on some pinhead in the gubmint to tell you how you should invest your money, they figure if you are spending your own money, you get to decide. Pretty refreshing. I believe this has changed somewhat now. Not sure.

Lots of these people shouldn't be complaining so much. The flip side is if your town is shrinking or stagnant. Then, you'd love a little sprawl to increase your tax base. Those are the towns that are the ones trying to attract developers and new businesses.


99 posted on 01/29/2006 11:23:43 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: x

Screw up one state and then move onto the next. That's the American Way. My ancestors started out in Virginia in the 17th century, moved to Tennessee at the end of the 18th century, moved to Missouri in the early 19th century, and then some of them moved to California in the 20th century. I'm not sure where they're headed to in the 21st century, but you gotta problem with that?


100 posted on 01/29/2006 11:25:07 AM PST by LibertarianCandidate
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