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Baker’s relief bill deserves try
Baton Rouge Morning Advocate ^ | 1-29-06 | John LaPlante

Posted on 01/29/2006 6:51:06 AM PST by Uncle Sham

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To: Boanarges
"I'm curious to know what wonderful Natural Resource you State contributes to Louisiana or the rest of the Country which would, if withheld, put us to our knees?

How about our HARD EARNED MONEY BEING TAKEN TO HELP THOSE WHO WON'T HELP THEMSELVES, AND REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE THE FOOLISHNESS OF LIVING BELOW SEA LEVEL, AND EXPECTING US TO PAY FOR THEIR FOLLY?

Those earnings ARE our natural resource, to those of us who are responsible for our own well-being. How about you?

181 posted on 01/29/2006 1:59:25 PM PST by traditional1
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To: Boanarges

That would be tobacco lol. However, my great grandfather used to raise his own in southwestern louisiana so we could convert some of our crops over to tobacco if needed. Since I don't smoke, no skin off my nose. ;)


182 posted on 01/29/2006 2:01:04 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Uncle Sham

St. Lawrence Seaway, Vancouver, Chicago. There are alternatives, jack up those taxes and lets see where it all goes.


183 posted on 01/29/2006 2:03:54 PM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: Howlin
Let me ask you this: is most of Louisiana, except the New Orleans area helping itself?

Yes it is. I live in the direct impact zone where Rita hit and we are almost back up and running. There are some problems but the local leaders here are extremely competent and efficient. The MSM has ignored this area simply because the people are tough and independent.

184 posted on 01/29/2006 2:04:31 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: CajunConservative
The MSM has ignored this area simply because the people are tough and independent.

Thanks. I'm embarassed it took me this long to even ask.

185 posted on 01/29/2006 2:05:41 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: CajunConservative

We'll find something else to tax. :-)


186 posted on 01/29/2006 2:06:24 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Howlin

That's okay, we're used to it by now.


187 posted on 01/29/2006 2:19:08 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: sgtyork

Those alternatives sure look cost-effective! Wow! Good luck, and remember when you're done pricing them, we are still here to help. Even if you don't want us to be.


188 posted on 01/29/2006 2:23:14 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: CajunConservative

Well, you shouldn't be.

I suspect you're much like the people in the eastern part of this state. One look at any map should tell people just about everything they need to know.......LOL.


189 posted on 01/29/2006 2:25:45 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Uncle Sham

I'd like to add on item to my list up the thread about why people on this forum might not be so anxious to give you all some more money.

Your attitude.


190 posted on 01/29/2006 2:27:00 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: dirtboy
**Hey, Galveston Grl - how are the school buses doing in Galveston - you know, the ones used to evacuate those without cars when Rita was approaching?**

Our Mayor called on Fema and Bush to get some bus drivers in to evacuate the island, but Bush failed to do it and Fema was so incompetent, they did not know how to drive city school buses! ; )

Bush tried to get Cheney, Laura and the twins out there to drive the Mayor's buses - but they would not go because they are racists and did not want to drive poor black people out of the city! ; )

The poor Mayor had to get city bus drivers to do the job that Bush would not do! ; )
191 posted on 01/29/2006 2:27:34 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Howlin

You're quite a charmer yourself Howlin. Use me for whatever excuse you need to do nothing for others and complain about it at that.


192 posted on 01/29/2006 2:35:12 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Boanarges

**In a sense, because of their abundance of Natural Resources on land and off their coast, Louisiana has the Nation and Americans at their mercy and the State is just beginning to wake up to that fact. Time will tell how all this shakes out. Stay tuned!**

It is only right that Meemaw Blank-o and Chocolate city man take lessons from commrade Chavez. When they do this, I hope Louisanna's commies are good at pumping the oil because private industry might object to the lie that the State suddenly owns privately owned "resources." I'm sure the American people will sit by and permit these incompetent cleptocrats a nation-wide tax, too.

We need Meemaw on teevee threatening the Nation - give us billions or we are taking over the oil. Have the stubbly faced thing bawling in the background about how Bush killed his mama. : )


193 posted on 01/29/2006 2:50:10 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Uncle Sham

You add tax and everything else becomes more cost effective. You want to extort our sympathy?


194 posted on 01/29/2006 3:13:41 PM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: sgtyork

Sympathy? Like that you've displayed? No, I wouldn't want anything at all to do with your type of sympathy, much less extort it. When someone has a problem and folks like you show up, they'd be better off solving their own problem. That's all we are going to do. Start pricing those alternative routes. Might be a good idea.


195 posted on 01/29/2006 3:45:29 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

Good bye New Orleans


196 posted on 01/29/2006 3:56:34 PM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: sgtyork

Just remember, we're still here when you get those prices. Even if you don't want us to be.


197 posted on 01/29/2006 4:42:48 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: CajunConservative
Mississippi is paying their homeowners $150,000.

From the 2000 U.S. Census,  the median value of homes in New Orleans is $87,300.00.

Specified owner-occupied units 74,407 100.0%
VALUE
Less than    $50,000       9,204   12.4%
$50,000  to $99,999    35,535  47.8%
$100,000 to $149,999 12,778  17.2%
$150,000 to $199,999  6,775  9.1%
$200,000 to $299,999  5,246  7.1%
$300,000 to $499,999  3,170  4.3%
$500,000 to $999,999  1,466  2.0%
$1,000,000 or more         233  0.3%

Median (dollars) 87,300

In 2000, according to the Census Bureau, 60.2% of all homes in New Orleans had a value of less that $100,000.00. How many of the 20,000 homes fall into this category, I have no idea.

I have no problem helping my fellow citizens, I am concerned about how H.R. Bill 4100 is going to determing purchase price, see my post 135.

Example of my concern. If the Louisiana Recovery Corporation purchases a home for $75,000.00 (market value before Katrina), then levels the home, prepares the land...sewers, water, electricity for another say $15,000.00 totalling $90,000.00 for now what is just land. The Louisiana Recovery Corporation sells the property to a developer for $25,000.00 for a net loss of ($65,000.00). Who is going to pay this for this loss. Is this how it really is going to work.

I'm not against New Orleans residents getting help, I just what to know what H.R. 4100 is going to cost all of us before all is said and done. The emphasis of this thread was Bush was stalling the bill. After looking into the details of the Bill (see my previous posts on this thread), I have some reservations about this plan. Thats my opinion.

198 posted on 01/29/2006 6:00:00 PM PST by Flifuss (My 2 cents seems to be adding up.)
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To: CajunConservative

One last thing, I went to the Congressional Budget Office's website and searched for a scoring of HR 4100. There was no cost estimate for H.R. 4100. It wasn't even mentioned anywhere on the site. CBO scores any bill a congressman requests and there are plenty on file under the 109th Congress. But not H.R. 4100. I found that interesting. Thats why I tried to do some analysis on my own. Normally, CBO does it.


199 posted on 01/29/2006 6:23:22 PM PST by Flifuss
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To: Flifuss

I am simply making an observation here in that there is not one word of disagreement about Mississippi paying their citizens $150,000 simply because Barbour is a republican with connections. What is the difference in Mississippi paying well over market value for the homes that were destroyed than Louisiana doing the same thing? They are using federal dollars to buy out the flooded homeowners who did not have flood insurance.


200 posted on 01/29/2006 6:31:11 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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