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Pakistan 'delay let bin Laden escape US raid'
Telegraph ^ | Jan 29 2001 | Massoud Ansari

Posted on 01/28/2006 5:00:16 PM PST by Dog

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To: Dog

Prevarication? Maybe they meant "Procrastination".

Either way, we are ahead of the game as long as UBL is either alive, or thought to be. Pay no attention to the moonbats' cry of "We should have gone after bin Laden"; that is a red herring from desperate Bush-haters

We should allow the jihadis and the rest of the world continue to believe the tall sheik is alive well beyond his inevitable demise.


41 posted on 01/28/2006 5:40:24 PM PST by thelastvirgil ("When the roll is called in congress, they don't know whether to answer 'present' or 'not guilty'.")
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To: ErnBatavia
these "sensational" articles are a waste of everybody's time....yours and mine.

Information like this is leaked for a reason, usually. Doesn't mean it's not 100% bogus, but in a time of war, the strategy behind it makes for interesting speculation.

42 posted on 01/28/2006 5:43:39 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Boycott Citgo)
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To: Dog

I'm sure we know more than we're telling. I certainly hope that's the case.

But I have a huge file of stories like this that get filed under Rumors That Can't Possibly Be Confirmed Without Further Evidence.

I think the airstrike in Pakistan a couple of weeks ago came with the full knowledge of some Pakistani authorities in advance. Maybe it was a select segment of the ISI that we now trust. It certainly was without the knowledge of the Pakistani Foreign Ministry.

Musharraf himself might not have known, but he was strangely quiet for several days afterward.

A lot is going on that we know nothing about. Some of the stuff that leaks out is true and much of it isn't.

It's nearly impossible for any of us to determine what is truth or not. Stories with anonymous sources for explosive allegations are the most difficult. Nobody can do a follow up, only the original reporter.

Anonymous sources reported that the Taliban had nukes in Afghanistan. It was impossible to refute that, but it's quite clear it wasn't true.

I guess we'll take all the information we can get, and then it's our job to weigh it, keep it in mind, and keep looking.

A lot of stuff gets filed in the MAYBE category.


43 posted on 01/28/2006 5:45:18 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Many things are alluded to, or perhaps inferred. This tidbit has meaning: Al-Zawahiri is thought to have cancelled his visit, possibly after spotting CIA drones in the area.

Experience indicates that if Ayman was still sucking air, there would be an immediate denial.

44 posted on 01/28/2006 5:52:50 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Dog

If only Jack Bauer had been available then! He would have gone into Pakistan personally, wiped out SBL and brought back his head as evidence. Alas, Jack is too busy here chasing endless terrorists and sundry traitors in the CTU/LA and in President Palmer's office. Jack's one busy guy. Best way to keep track of him is via the DVDs--no commercials, just non-stop action. He better find a way to remove the two most irritating females in the cast, however. His daughter and the President's former wife.


45 posted on 01/28/2006 5:54:27 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Dog

Massoud Ansari is an Al Qaeda propagandist. Google some of his previous stories.


46 posted on 01/28/2006 5:55:18 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Dog Gone
Anonymous sources reported that the Taliban had nukes in Afghanistan. It was impossible to refute that, but it's quite clear it wasn't true.

Please elucidate upon how exactly you know this to be untrue.

47 posted on 01/28/2006 5:57:07 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Dog

didn't I hear Dems recently clamoring about Bush screwing up by letting bin Laden get away from Tora Bora? Those nutjobs who went on OReilly this past week were saying something like that...


48 posted on 01/28/2006 6:03:15 PM PST by Third Order
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

It's impossible to prove a negative, as I'm sure you're well aware.


So the media accounts saying that the Taliban or al-Qaida had nukes in Afghanistan are not capable of being disproved.

The fact that they weren't used is pretty good evidence. The fact that no evidence was discovered that they ever had them is another.

So, your turn. Is any statement you hear presumptively true unless you can absolutely disprove it?

Your brain is made of cheese. Please elucidate how exactly you know this to be untrue.


49 posted on 01/28/2006 6:05:53 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog
Bin dirt bag- Is dead-gone for a while now. There is no boogie man He's dead. Now We focus on the rest.
50 posted on 01/28/2006 6:16:44 PM PST by reefdiver (Demo rats = surrender monkees)
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To: Dog Gone
Your brain is made of cheese. Please elucidate how exactly you know this to be untrue.

You got me on that one. It is a Swiss/Cheddar/Muenster mix that I will NEVER disclose.

51 posted on 01/28/2006 6:25:43 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

ROFL!


52 posted on 01/28/2006 6:28:01 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog

For later read


53 posted on 01/28/2006 6:28:01 PM PST by EarlyBird
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To: Dog; Cap Huff; Coop; Straight Vermonter; jeffers
Based on the info in the story, the location of Zhob was a bit of a surprise. In order to include familiar surrounding geophysical features, I had to use 4,000,000:1 scale. Notice Kabul near top center and Islamabad on the upper right. Between them in the dark area on the border, is the Safed Koh mountain range, home of the so-called Tora Bora cave complex. About 400km SW of there, along the border, is our old friend, Wana. About 150km due south of Wana, right at the bottom of the map, is the town of Zhob. Anyway, here's the map, enjoy...



54 posted on 01/28/2006 6:35:45 PM PST by Boot Hill ("...and Joshua went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: Dog
The January 13 attack, prompted by a tip that bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, was hiding in a local village, killed 13 civilians.

No terrorists, relations to terrorists or hiders of terrorists? Just civilians? hmmm.

55 posted on 01/28/2006 6:48:56 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Dog

My wife's co-worker son is in Pakistan visiting his father that is her ex-husband. The son said everyone knows he is hiding there and the people and the government are protecting him. It is common knowledge.


56 posted on 01/28/2006 6:51:28 PM PST by bmwcyle (We got permits, yes we DO! We got permits, how 'bout YOU?))
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To: Dog
There are those who hate the idea that we have gotten cooperation from Pakistan despite the assassination attempts on Mushareff's life.

This article will not cause any rift on our side as we are aware of the true situation but it may well help Mushareff with his crazies, er citizens.

57 posted on 01/28/2006 7:05:37 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Dog
"...The reason for the delay is not clear..."

You know, we don't need to know the reason. Fact is, there was one. There were delays in getting resources pooled to be able to avoid 9/11, there were delays in getting troops to Afghanistan afterwards, there were numerous "near misses" in trying to nab numerous Al Qaeda figures. Delays and missed opportunities are ALWAYS part of the game.

Which is precisely why the President has opted to use Executive authority to remove one step in the process involving terrorist phone surveillance. The purpose is to reduce such delays and give us a better chance at victory. Hence, the recent strike in Pakistan as another example.

Something tells me that this President understands the problems and is bent on getting solutions.

58 posted on 01/28/2006 7:06:30 PM PST by alancarp (NASCAR: Always turning left, but can never keep up with the Liber-commis.)
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To: mfnorman
" it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission".

A motto that has, for the most part, served me well.

59 posted on 01/28/2006 7:09:54 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Dog

The next time the left wing asks why Osama isn't dead, we can reply that it's because of lack of cooperation from Pakistan.


60 posted on 01/28/2006 7:16:10 PM PST by popdonnelly
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