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Target Pharmacist Fired for Refusing to Dispense Abortifacient Morning-After Pill
Life Site News ^ | 1/27/06 | Terry Vanderheyden

Posted on 01/27/2006 12:56:47 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: JCEccles
Based on what? She didn't like the rules, legal ones BTW, of her employer?

No physician should be required to perform an abortion, and no pharmacist should be required to dispense abortificents.

No one is saying they should be required to. However if they choose to work for a private corporation that decides to engage in legal activity, they are required to follow those rules.

Unless like most 'conservatives' you believe private corporations don't have a right to conduct their business as they see fit.

241 posted on 01/28/2006 6:44:57 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: MillerCreek
However, if/when they're in the United States physically, everyone else who they employ is, too -- generally, I mean, but the point is that the Constitution governs ultimately and a U.S. organization with U.S. licensing employing U.S. citizens is under consideration of what the Constitution identifies.

Mistake #1. Common among 'conservatives'. The Constitution was intended to be a list of limitations on the federal government, and the rights that the citizens of the respective states have when dealing with said government. Nothing more. What the supposed right and left have done with it over the years is activism, pure and simple.

Not to mention, also, state constitutions, codes that identify individual rights and wrongs.

Yes....and the state constitution, and the laws found within the state's code, have stated that it is the right of the private company to sell the product. If you choose that you cannot sell the product the company requires of you, the private corporation is not beholden to keep you on if you refuse to do the job you are hired to do.

The only 'free enterprise' and "private enterprise" that I am aware of that is, literally, answerable to no one is criminal activity. The rest of are governed by laws. This is a situation where there are gray areas governed by laws.

Ah, no belief in free or private enterprise. Who said Republicans still believe in capitalism eh? There is no gray area.

Ultimately, yes, I agree that business is 'free' to hire and fire whoever they want to do what. But how they do all that isn't as "private" and modifiable as some suggest.

So much for freedom of association. And I see some are even glad about it...

242 posted on 01/28/2006 6:53:02 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: wagglebee
“For me, life begins with two cells,” said Heather Williams

As much as I agree with her, she has no right to decide what prescriptions she will or won't fill. If she has moral problems with it, she should have quit, not refused to fill prescriptions.

243 posted on 01/28/2006 6:54:33 AM PST by Casloy
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To: dangus
providing that the requirements do not create an adverse change in the working environment.

But the pharmacy sells prescriptions, so it is safe to assume that any new drugs that come along will be stocked by the pharmacy. She can't claim she did not expect the pharmacy to offer this drug. I sympathize with her moral objection, but Target has a right to provide it's customers with whatever drugs are prescribed and as an employee she does not have the right to pick and choose which prescriptions she will personally fill. If she has that much of a problem with it she ought to quit.

244 posted on 01/28/2006 6:58:42 AM PST by Casloy
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To: BigBadBrian
go back to the baby-killing DU.

That's over the line. No one is talking about being pro abortion here. We are discussing a complicated issue of the rights of an employer versus the rights of an employee. I can be as anti abortion as they come (and I am) and still believe this woman has no right to decide what prescriptions she will or won't dispense. What if the clerk at the register decided she would not ring up condoms, or spermacides because as a Catholic she could not condone birth control?

245 posted on 01/28/2006 7:04:07 AM PST by Casloy
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To: TheDon
It would be nice to have a list of pharmacies that don't provide abortifacients for us to support.

It sure would. We can have stores that sell only free range chickens, but when it comes to abortion a veil of silence takes over.

246 posted on 01/28/2006 7:06:21 AM PST by Casloy
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To: Casloy

Re-read the article. She NEVER refused to fill any prescriptions.


247 posted on 01/28/2006 7:20:05 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MineralMan

Did you read the story? There was no customer interaction. She was fired for refusing to sign the "Must dispense" agreement.


248 posted on 01/28/2006 7:22:01 AM PST by j_tull (Remember, before rap came along, we thought disco sucked.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Do you propose withdrawing the pill from the market? I mean regular birth control pills.


249 posted on 01/28/2006 7:56:35 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: MillerCreek
Provided that you do not alter pay and employment benefits, an employer can ask an employee to do anything that the employer needs done, as long as it's not illegal. The employer is the one who took the risks involved with starting the business. The employer is the one who calls the shots.

If I own a restaurant and hire a chef who specializes in French cuisine, and then decide to change the menu to fast food, the chef can remain at his or her current rate of pay, or decide to move on if he or she doesn't want to accept the new environment. I am the boss.

You agree to do what the employer needs done within the boundaries of local, federal, and state law. That is what you agree to when you accept employment. If your conscience dictates to you that you can no longer provide the services that an an employer provides, be it the same services as you have always performed, or new services that are required, then you are free to seek employment elsewhere.

250 posted on 01/28/2006 9:21:10 AM PST by SALChamps03
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To: MillerCreek
thanks, good point. I guess they are like wal mart who contributes more to the rnc unlike costco that contributes more to the DNC. Probably the reason why wal mart is vilified in the media much more than costco.
251 posted on 01/28/2006 11:22:47 AM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: hocndoc

when they work at all. >>

there isn't much success using these drugs?


252 posted on 01/28/2006 11:24:10 AM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: MillerCreek

You can make all the judgemental arguments you want, the fact of the matter remains that the pharmacist was not performing her job. That is the root cause of her dismissal. I said once before, I don't want a sermon with my prescription, I just want my prescription. She needs to find another job if she can't fullfill the requirements of the present one.


253 posted on 01/28/2006 11:27:35 AM PST by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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To: wagglebee
You seem to have missed my point. If the drugs should not be dispensed, then appeal to the FDA. But people hired to do a job, and then not doing that job is not a good thing.

The pro-life movement does indeed have major ties to religious and faith organizations. But I do not think it is stupid.
254 posted on 01/28/2006 1:46:20 PM PST by Prodn2000
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To: Prodn2000

Would a Mennonite pacifist working at Wal-Mart be required to sell firearms?


255 posted on 01/28/2006 1:47:52 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MillerCreek
Thank you for making my point for me by bringing up the scientologists. The drug is legal from a federal and state standpoint. If she can not do the job that she was hired (and paid BIG BUCKS$$$ for,) then maybe she needs to be behind the counter at Burger King. Ok a deeply religious Christian Scientist pharmacist decides that he is not going to dispense any drugs on the grounds of his spiritual/moral convictions. Anyone see any problem with that?
256 posted on 01/28/2006 1:54:22 PM PST by Prodn2000
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To: hocndoc

Actually, it is not a silly extrapolation. I do believe that in the United State any and and all religions/faiths are equal under the law.


257 posted on 01/28/2006 1:57:22 PM PST by Prodn2000
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To: wagglebee

I do believe that there is a little itty bitty difference between someone who works on the floor at Wal-Mart, and someone who has a college degree, is licensed from the state to dispense and advise patients on pharmaceuticals and works in the Wal-Mart pharmacy.

But then again, its been ages since I have been inside a Wal-Mart. Do they now require their Sporting Goods employees to be licensed?


258 posted on 01/28/2006 2:01:48 PM PST by Prodn2000
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To: wagglebee
Target's new policy:

"No Irish Need Apply"

Guess I won't be shopping at Target anymore.

259 posted on 01/28/2006 2:02:48 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Prodn2000

Licenced physicians are generally not performed to perform procedures they are ethically opposed to, even if they work in a private hospital. And it should be pointed out that this woman had worked at Target for five years before this new policy was enacted. And Target claims to adhere to the non-discriminatory EEOC policies as required by law.

http://target.com/targetcorp_group/diversity/commitment.jhtml


260 posted on 01/28/2006 2:11:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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