Posted on 01/26/2006 7:12:54 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Peer reviewed articles are nothing to go by as you can read 10 articles on one particular drug and they come to 10 different conclusions.
thanx, bfl
i would like to hear your thoughts on this
They grow wild here. I had a couple bushes in the yard and they almost become a pest like blackberry vines. One thing I love about them is that they make the BEST jelly I've ever tasted. :)
please don't take me for a hippie , but ...
... I make fresh,raw juices on my Samson GB-9001 juicer ,
... I'm closing in on 60,and wasn't so good in my youth ,
... this stuff really works ,FReepmail me if you'd like to know more [anyone is welcome to pick my brain]
Sounds like elderberry wine could be a good investment.
Enter elderberry and influenza into PubMed.
I don't think elderberries have to be an Israeli variety to be effective. I have read other studies that suggest that elderberries are effective against most viruses. I ran out and picked wild elderberries and made jars of jam for when we get sick (and it is wonderful just for it's taste). Next year, I want to make elderberry wine for the same reason.
Elderberries grow wild all over the country, and ripen here (California)in August through early October.
"I hear kimchi is fairly effective too."
No, Kimchi keeps you from getting the flu in the first place. It works by the strong odor that Kimchi consumers have coming out their pores driving people away, so you don't have the opportunity to be around people, and you don't get exposed to what they have.
I understand that lonliness is a side effect of Kimchi.
Star Anise
Ginseng
Sauerkraut/kinchi
Licorice
Grape juice
Cinnamon
Elder berries
I've had luck with elderberry preventing a cold if I take it right at the first symptom, but if I'm already sick it doesn't do a thing.
I have found taking Vitamin C at the first sign of a cold also works. As C is used up or excreted in 4 or 5 hours, you have to take it 5 or 6 times a day. Rose hips are a natural source of C. When plague was ravaging Europe I read that Nostrodamus urged his villagers to make rose hip tea, and they had little plague.
At a wilderness campout, a young women stung by yellow jackets had forgotten her allergy kit. Her skin was swollen an inch all over, her eyes were puffed almost shut, and her throat was closing up. I started giving her Vitamin C, ten grams at a time, every 1/2 hour. At the first 1/2 hour, her throat had opened a little and she could see better. At 1 hour she felt a lot better, was no longer afraid she would die, and about half the puffiness had subsided. When I had given her 40 grams, she was a lot better and I cut back to 5 grams per hour. I stayed with her six hours, and then she said she felt she could take care of herself and take C as needed.
Another powerful antioxidant is Pycnogenol. It is expensive but I keep some around for emergencies. You can probably get it naturally by brewing young stem ends of Arbor Vitae, the ornamental evergreen shrub, into tea.
Natural vinegar (apple cider vinegar), saurkraut, kimche, etc. all seem to have useful properties. When my children were very small I would fill an 8 oz., baby bottle with water, a tablespoon of honey, 1/2 teaspoon of garlic powder, and 1,000 mg. of Vitamin C, crushed into powder. They would suck on it during the night when they woke up coughing, and go back to sleep. After I started doing this they rarely got ear infections from colds.
Good list.
Be aware that products containing Licorice can cause an increase in blood pressure. I have to be careful myself after finding this link.
bttt
bfl
Actually, it wasn't a joke as I normally would have made (though I agree that it probably can help you NOT catch the flu too with the smell--it took me 8 months to even acquire a tast for it), I remember some article saying something about kimchi having some kind of effect against bird flu. Can't remember where though. Korea hasn't had the problems yet that some Asian nations have, but it may be just a matter of time too.
I'll stick with the other herbal products we discussed. Notice that the Title of the article leads one to think it's a go, but the last part of the article says they're just testing, and there's no success yet, etc etc etc....
I'll stick with what we already know until they figure it out.
The utility of elderberries is definitely not proven, at least as far as bird flu is concerned. If bird flu starts going human to human, I'll stick with the herbs that do not activate the cytokine storm for sure.
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