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Top U.S. General Says Army 'Stretched' (Gen Casey in Iraq)
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 26 Jan 06 | Nick Wadams

Posted on 01/26/2006 6:51:15 AM PST by xzins

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To: xzins
Looks like the enlistment plan resulted in mass desertions.

:)

41 posted on 01/26/2006 5:32:48 PM PST by spunkets
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To: xzins
I hope we have a contingency plan for evacuating a radioactive combat zone.
42 posted on 01/26/2006 5:33:16 PM PST by airborne
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To: spunkets

She's standard issue, but Republicans in congress are demanding no soldier receive one until he first has the latest body armor. :>)


43 posted on 01/26/2006 6:39:55 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: airborne

Actually, we do.


44 posted on 01/26/2006 6:41:35 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
I still cannot believe that we bombed Christians and Jews in Kosovo so the Muslims could burn the churches and synagogues and kill the survivors. Who the h*ll does the American left think they're going to come after next?
45 posted on 01/26/2006 6:46:15 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Look, Daddy! Teacher says every time a Kennedy talks, a Republican gets a house seat!)
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To: xzins

How many KBR expats is Casey and/or Rumsfeld counting in the mix, lol...?


46 posted on 01/26/2006 7:01:46 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

How many truck drivers, cooks, guards, etc.?

I'm betting lots and lots of truck drivers. Do you remember the truck driver a while back who was captured and then escaped....I think I read they were paying him a 100 grand a year. That's a lot of cash to appeal to folks.


47 posted on 01/26/2006 7:12:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Richard Kimball

And, if you recall, Clinton promised we'd be in Bosnia ONLY one year.

11 years later.....

Why wasn't the NYT all over THAT?!!


48 posted on 01/26/2006 7:14:14 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

That pay is for driving some tough roads for about 100 hours per week, unarmed and in barely-armored or non armored semis, no permanent benefits, etc.


49 posted on 01/26/2006 7:15:42 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

I'm not complaining about the pay scale....all I'm saying is that it'll turn some heads when folks hear it.

You think to yourself....Wow, if I could last 3 years at that, then I'd be set.

And so they bite. If they made it 200 grand, then I might bite.

(Wonder if they wanna hire any chaplains? What's an experienced religious professional bring with Brown & Root?)


50 posted on 01/26/2006 7:20:51 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

News headlines are a religious experience since they make people shout, Oh God! each time a new allegation surfaces!

There's always kbr.com for jobs....don't have any idea what you might be able to find there.

The stress those truckers face is incredible. I've ridden with them; once 35 mph at night through Fallujah with the USMC using the KBR trucks as bait. Yeah, lots of fun. Most barely make it for their 12 months, let alone 3 years.

But there is a significant expat population that make careers of remote work. And there are many who have started second careers apart from what they originally started as.


51 posted on 01/26/2006 7:28:57 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: xzins; GAB-1955
Thank you both for your posts on this matter. They're very informative.

I've no military experience and yet I know a few vets, and it's amazing how what they tell me about the way military issues are reported by the MSM.

In this case, it's interesting how the Bill Clinton division-cutting somehow never gets brought up...but not surprising.

52 posted on 01/26/2006 7:45:51 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes)
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I appreciate your kind words.


53 posted on 01/26/2006 7:54:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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Could you or someone else nail down why these 18 were reduced to 10? I'm confused by some of the posts on this thread--seems like it started under Bush Sr. Thanks for any help.


54 posted on 01/26/2006 7:58:57 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes)
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To: xzins
I appreciate your service.

This kind of story is interesting to civilian me because it shows the necessary disparity between someone like Rumsfeld--a civilian component of the military, for want of a smoother term--and the actual general(s) in charge.

Rumsfeld is SUPPOSED to translate the hard facts into politicalese. That's not saying he should lie or obfuscate--just the opposite. His duty is to make clear that such pronouncements are put in their proper context.

An Army that's stressed isn't one that's inches from catastrophe--which is what headline writers are supposed to make it seem like, apparently.

55 posted on 01/26/2006 8:06:26 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes)
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To: Darkwolf377

The reason given for the Army going from 18 to 10 was the end of the Cold War. So, there was talk of a drawdown toward the end of Bush 1's term. Then came Desert Storm. The army was actually increased in size throughout the war. You will recall that was right before the 92 election.

That increase was reduced leading into the election. I think there was a paper on the table by Bush1, that was stopped by Desert Storm, and it called for the Army to go from 18 to 15 divisions....or something like that.

My memory says that report was rejected by the clintonistas, and they implemented the 18-10 division cut.


56 posted on 01/26/2006 8:07:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

Thanks for this, it gives me info to search on. Much obliged.


57 posted on 01/26/2006 8:08:52 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes)
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To: Darkwolf377

Go to post #25


58 posted on 01/26/2006 8:10:25 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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The AP is messing with y'all again...

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Releases/Jan/060126h.htm January 26, 2006

Release A060126h

Sufficient Troop Strength in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq – An Associated Press story earlier today incorrectly reported that General George W. Casey, Multi-National Force Iraq commanding general, implied American forces in Iraq are “stretched.”

During an interview in Diwaniyah, Iraq, General Casey was asked about the current operational tempo and if insurgents could possibly “outlast” the U.S. Army in Iraq.

Having talked to the Chief of Staff of the Army only yesterday about overall troop strength and operational tempo, General Casey replied that the Army could sustain this effort for a long time. Additionally, General Casey pointed out that while U.S. forces are stretched overall, the Army is going through a modernization strategy that will produce more units and ready units. General Casey was speaking about Army forces in general, and not specifically about forces in Iraq.

The Associated Press was contacted about the error and has agreed to correct the story.

59 posted on 01/26/2006 11:23:15 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: xzins

What army fighting a war is not "strained"? How many generals have told the politicals "We have too many men, too many supplies, too good weapons"? Lol.


60 posted on 01/26/2006 11:26:58 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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