Posted on 01/24/2006 6:50:00 PM PST by MillerCreek
How do YOU know that the U.S. "drug war in South America is a total disaster"?
I'm curious as to how you can substantiate that, and why.
You "getting (your) chocolate" has nothing to do with cocaine and the coca farmers in Bolivia, unless you are "getting (your) chocolate" along with your cocaine. Or from the same source.
And all that cocaine would not be possible without all those coca leaves being grown by all those "peasant farmers" such as Evo Morales. In Bolivia, chiefly, although it's hardly the only country responsible.
Some drug enforcement and eradication is far better than none. I've yet to ever encounter any bureaucracy that did not experience waste and fraud and mismanagement. But it's failure of humanity not failure of some distant thing called the bureaucracy itself.
With any effort involving drugs, sex and money, there are inevitable aggresses upon the ethics involved, if not outright horrid violations of decency and human life. Something as complex an operation as the DEA approaches the spanse of the military, certainly a paramilitary operation. I can understand that it would be rife with problems.
However, I find it completely objectionable to demean the United States for engaging in anti-drug measures, attempting, nearly, the impossible. We made it to the moon, almost to mars, as a species, we can eventually accomplish reasonable things as to smugglers, "druggies" and murderous cartels.
The worst offense I find is the willingness by some here to blame not only the United States for a generalized "drug problem" while alleging that those who produce and traffic in drugs are aimless, simple cultures or whatever. They grow and produce narcotics, they who do are responsible for their deeds just as individually those who fall victim to using the drugs. But the blame first rests to my view on those who produce the drugs and traffic them. Rid the world of those, you rid the world of most if not all narcotics given their agricultural root.
South America not only replaced "Pablo," but it also is far more populated now than it was when he had his nasty rule there. More people equals more of everything, more bad deeds, more drugs being grown by more people, more cocaine being produced on more land by more cartels. We also have more people in the United States and worldwide. Among those, we have more who abuse/use drugs. More people worldwide equates with more of everthing human and related.
The DEA and the U.S. hardly made that happen. The "blame the U.S." methodology aids and assists those who assume no responsibility for harming others, including the U.S., and at least after 09/11, some people do now recognize the complicity between narcotics and terrorism. Terrorism relies on funding sources and narcotics rely on terrorism to sell their product. Thus, a marriage made in Hell. In which Bolivia is inherently involved.
DISCUSSION ABOUT: Bolivia, Evo Morales, Cocaine, Castro and Terrorism
This thread was not originally intended for the "moral absolutes" area of discussion, but it has taken a turn into a moral one, with a few persons arguing the moral relativism of the "unblamable drug cartels" while attempting to also blame the United States for the use of drugs -- which, in my view, fulfills the best hopes of the cartels themselves: "that the U.S. is inherently bad and the poor peasants are right and good to uprise and conquer the evil U.S."
I paraphrase but am quite concerned about the issue of narco terrorism. And that South and Central America are emerging as the second home to Hamas, with a partnership between politico-terrorists and narco-terrorists certainly underway.
Sadly, some on this thread reduced the issue to the argument that they want their "chocolate" and the rest, "why care".
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Oh, so now *I* am responsible for "turning Mexico and South America communist"?
Are you eve familiar with history? They've been communist far longer than even **I** have been alive, much less educated to any point to be able to write my opinions.
Try something intelligent. I'm still waiting to read something that is from you.
Very nice mugs. I forgot to ping you to this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566302/posts
It's about the segment that 60 Minutes is doing on Richard Paey this Sunday.
Thanks!
Oh, so NOW I'm "a kid" because you want your chocolate and think Bolivians are harmless in the cocaine narco business?
You are still insane.
And you still haven't read the article that this thread was intended upon, have you?
Why have you maligned the thread and yet contributed nothing more than nasty malignments here? You have not read the article, you've forced some sort of word pugalism based upon your wants and needs for "chocolate" and yet don't recognize this thread isn't even about "chocolate" nor about your work experience anywhere.
It's about Evo Morales, narco terrorism and the nation of Bolivia.
Unless you are Evo Morales, your desire for a ready supply of chocolate and other negative and irrational statements about me have nothing to do with the thread.
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