Evolution study tightens human-chimp connection

EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 23 January 2006 | Staff

[RunningWolf]

Perhaps another list needs to be started also.

The one where the evo must warp and distort your message, infer conclusions you never made, even put words there you never said.

Then based on that, they scream liar liar ignorant retard psychopath moron.

Wolf

[Dimensio]

My apologies, I misunderstood zeeba neighba's claim. While he didn't state it explicitly, I was taking his comment to refer to frauds supposedly done to support evolution. I admit now that I should not have made this assumption, as there was no wording to either state or even imply such an exclusive range (unlike creationists, I admit when I make errors).

Of course, my responding to this should show that zeeba neighba's claim that I will "shut up" in response to references to lies of scientists is itself false.

[longshadow]

Missing warpcore Count-up Clock: 48h 00m 00s

[CarolinaGuitarman]

[longshadow]

Either you have some evidence, or you do not.

EVIDENCE FOR ID????

WHAT EVIDENCE:

On cross-examination, Professor Behe admitted that: "There are no peer reviewed articles by anyone advocating for intelligent design supported by pertinent experiments or calculations which provide detailed rigorous accounts of how intelligent design of any biological system occurred"(22:22-23 (Behe)). Additionally, Professor Behe conceded that there are no peer-reviewed papers supporting his claims that complex molecular systems, like the bacterial flagellum, the blood-clotting cascade, and the immune system, were intelligently designed. (21:61-62 (complex molecular systems), 23:4-5 (immune system), and 22:124-25 (blood-clotting cascade) (Behe)). In that regard, there are no peer-reviewed articles supporting Professor Behe's argument that certain complex molecular structures are "irreducibly complex."17 (21:62, 22:124-25 (Behe)). In addition to failing to produce papers in peer-reviewed journals, ID also features no scientific research or testing. (28:114-15 (Fuller); 18:22-23, 105-06 (Behe))

p 89 of the Dover Judgement [emphasis added to help the addled, the confused, and the victims of anti-Evo mendacity]

[VadeRetro]

Looking it over, warpcorebreach's undoing was probably highball's reference in 374 to a pre-written vanity article. That cried out to be one-upped. Somehow, these threads are about that for creo trolls. Thus, in his response warp decided to borrow Lambert Dolphin's identity and body of web articles.

They're allowed to do that. It's for the Lord and apparently He will understand.

So here we are. There are only two possibilities. Warped is an impostor or Lambert Dolphin was stinking up the joint on FR.

[little jeremiah]

I'm just saying that scientists as a group are no more trustworthy than any other group. Simple. Some are decent and honest, some aren't.

Not every pronouncement, finding, test, peer reviewed article etc put forward by scientists is trustworthy or accurate. A lot of people have faith in scientists the way some people have faith in God.

A better attitude is "Buyer Beware".

[longshadow]

There are only two possibilities. Warped is an impostor or Lambert Dolphin was stinking up the joint on FR.

A third possibility: he might return and invoke the Dover Defense: "he misspoke."

[VadeRetro]

Yep. But when you link a web site chock full of articles and say, "And you are more than welcome to check out my web pages as well," that had better be YOUR website or you have indeed "misspoke" your butt off.

[highball]

Maybe the reason he hasn't been back is that he's off kicking his Oxycontin addiction, with William Buckingham....

[longshadow]

or you have indeed "misspoke" your butt off.

Exactly! I was using "misspoke" in the same sense as some of the Dover defendants used it..... as a synonym for FAT ENORMOUS WHOPPER!

;-)

[PatrickHenry]

O horrible man!

[TheBrotherhood]

"(unlike creationists, I admit when I make errors)."

So do I.

I'm sorry, though, today I ain't got much constructive to add to the thread. I shared my ideas and opinions (don't forget those links!) in the hope that as American citizens we all have a right to hear and to be heard. It has been a good exchange and I hope that you have benefited and been enlightened by my ideas as much as I've benefited from yours. Although in opposed camps we all have something to learn from each other.

We were not made to live like brutes, but to follow virtue and knowledge.

[TheBrotherhood]

Post #693 was meant for all, not just dementio.

[highball]

We were not made to live like brutes, but to follow virtue and knowledge.

Interesting philosophy from someone who insists on posting outright lies after they have been debunked.

And who then posts more lies trying to defend the original ones....

[Oztrich Boy]

Hey! Resent that!
I'm not Australian. Why should I?

But I am. And I was not going to let a slight at the abilities of our scoundrels and con artists go unprotested - on Austrlia Day no less.

[VadeRetro]

If you'd actually been taking half the approach to the discussion you claim to have taken, it would have been a far less bumpy ride for you. Think about actually explaining what you think and why and reacting honestly to the evidence.

[Condorman]

Very well, I conceed the superiority of Australian con artists and scoundrels.

(FYI: Wallace Shawn--The Princess Bride)

[TheBrotherhood]

>it would have been a far less bumpy ride for you.

Au contraire!

It wasn't a bumpy ride for moi. I had a good time and welcome the opportunity to - once again - sincerely share my know-how and vast storage of knowledge and ideas with others.

I was gonna say I like to ride on the driver's seat, and I was. But I'm not gonna say it.

PS: All responses and pings will be courteously and professionally responded to. So, do not hesitate to ping me.

[VadeRetro]

If you aren't dishonest you are utterly delusional.